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re: Congratulations to the 1964 National Champions

Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:16 pm to
When A&M starts dickriding Alabama you know the Hogs are back.

Watch your anus bammers.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72248 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:17 pm to
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Nothing is more SEC than to see Alabama constantly trying to STEAL national titles they have no business recognizing as their own.



Who the hell would not recognize an AP and coaches poll title?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20016 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:18 pm to
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JetDawg

Dick riding Arky?


Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:26 pm to
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The NCAA allows any school that has been voted #1 in any final poll to claim the national title.

Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964.


Well first of all, gee, thanks for graciously allowing us to claim an NC in a year we were voted champions by the two major selectors of the time. That's mighty big of you.

Secondly, what I'm hearing you say is Alabama ought to also claim an NC in any year they were voted #1 by at least one selector. Damn, that's a lot of championships! Good thing our fans are such fatasses, because there's no way we are going to fit all those years on anything less than an XXXL.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:46 pm to
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Nothing is more SEC than to see Alabama constantly trying to STEAL national titles they have no business recognizing as their own.


quote:

UGA - 6 national titles
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7287 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:53 pm to
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Who the hell would not recognize an AP and coaches poll title?

Read and comprehend my post, dullard.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7287 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:55 pm to
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UGA - 6 national titles

UGA only claims 2 (1942 & 1980)...they have the right to claim 1920, 1927, 1946, and 1968 in the same manner and fashion Alabama claims several of theirs, if they wish. They don't.

I do.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
1846 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:56 pm to
What was their final record. Did they lose any games If so to whom. What was Arkansas final record. Oh but but but bowl games were only practice games back then.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84883 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:57 pm to
Pre BCS, the only way to win a National Title was to be named the #1 team in the final AP or UPI/Coaches poll.

It may or may not be fair that the bowls weren’t considered by the 2 major polls in those days, but it was what it was.

Alabama has the only legitimate national title claim for the 1964 season.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30346 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:59 pm to
I was expecting to learn that Aggy found another mysterious national title to put on the stadium.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:02 pm to
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1973 (lost to Notre Dame in bowl game, ND consensus champ), 1978 (lost to USC)


Literally every school in the country would claim either of these as Bama took one of the two trophies that mattered. Can you give me a list of unclaimed AP or coaches titles from, say, the 60’s on? You just don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:04 pm to
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What was their final record. Did they lose any games If so to whom. What was Arkansas final record. Oh but but but bowl games were only practice games back then.



I mean, none of this is relevant. All that matters is this: where are the trophies?
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:06 pm to
I love how everyone says Bama shouldn’t claim the championships before the AP and UPI, including Hog fans. Then, those polls don’t count when they didn’t vote for them.

I do agree Bama shouldn’t claim 1941. That one is ridiculous, but everything else is pretty legit.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Lol nobody give a flying frick. Hitler was still considered a good guy when you guys last won your title.



Arky has finished higher than 4th 4 times since am’s last time…
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
1846 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:10 pm to
In Fayetteville with the other 49 National Championship Trophy’s.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:11 pm to
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The reason Bama keeps winning despite rule changes is because you never follow them in the first place. It doesn't matter what's on the books


Translation:

I have no idea what this thread is about but I still want to provide a worthless opinion.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65911 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:17 pm to

The greatest fact about us winning 64 is that it changed voting forever until after the Bowls. Which, ironically, would've had us repeating in 65 had the rules not changed.


Yeah, tFlagship is a game changer.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:17 pm to
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In Fayetteville with the other 49 National Championship Trophy’s


Will have to check that out some day. Are they all made of cheap Chinese plastic and broken dreams like the Arkansas ‘64 football trophy?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).

Example: 1941 (finished 9-2), 1973 (lost to Notre Dame in bowl game, ND consensus champ), 1978 (lost to USC)


I don't like that Alabama claims 1941; however, the rule the University has stuck to is AP/UPI poll from 1950 on (no other trophies matter). If the AP or UPI had awarded the trophy to Arkansas, then it would be a shared title.

As for 1973, ND was not "consensus" - they did not win the Coaches' poll that season. Alabama shares that title with them.

1978, split as well.

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the other polls were also highly recognized and whichever team won the CONSENSUS of all the polls was generally looked upon as the one who more rightly could claim the title.


This is not even accurate. Making things up and then declaring them as fact is something a politician does, but holds no bearing in the real world.


Look, my signature is a tongue-in-cheek joke but lacks enough characters to spell it out, but basically it's like this:

If Alabama claimed titles like Alabama claims titles, Alabama would have 32 national titles. Damn Alabama!


In other words, SOMEBODY in 32 different seasons felt Alabama was worthy of a national title.

There are a frick ton of trophies sitting in a closet somewhere in Tuscaloosa declaring Alabama national champs during years they chose not to claim it because of the 1950+ rule. Get over it.
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
1846 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:31 pm to
Don’t waste your time I doubt you can count that high
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