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Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:43 pm to rebelrouser
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Which one is Jimmy and which one is Jerry? Were they friends back then?
Jerry is 60, Jimmy 61. They were roommates. I highly recommend SEC Storied Before They Were Cowboys.
One of the best parts is Jerry would go out hustling tickets before games for money. Jimmy say man Jerry I’d like to make some of that money. Jerry says, “Jimmy when you wake up all you think about is football, when I wake up, all I think about is making money.” Obviously it worked out for both.
As far as the National Title that year. Arkansas went undefeated with a win over Texas. Alabama had 1 loss in a bowl game……to Texas. So frick the gumps.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:48 pm to JetDawg
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Example: 1941 (finished 9-2)
One of those losses… Mississippi State. Who won the SEC.
1941 had to be the only year, in any sport, the last team in the poll claims a title.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:50 pm to PorkSammich
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When A&M starts dickriding Alabama you know the Hogs are back.
Nah, they do that all the time.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:25 pm to JetDawg
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:32 pm to CapstoneGrad06
11-0 is better than 10-1.
Even Gumps have admit that.
But they have to take one shoe off to figure it out
Even Gumps have admit that.
But they have to take one shoe off to figure it out
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:58 pm to HogsOfWar
Both were 10-0 when the AP and Coaches voted.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:01 pm to Oklahomey
Legend has it that Bear's nickname for Coach Royal was "Daddy"
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:16 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Both were 10-0 when the AP and Coaches voted.
Texas and Alabama were both 10-1 after the bowl games.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:17 pm to redeye
That's nice, dear.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:36 pm to ibldprplgld
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The funny part is that aggots would kill for even a split natty.
64 is not a split title.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:37 pm to JetDawg
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Final Football Writers Assoc. of America
1. ARKANSAS
Final Billingsley Report
1. ARKANSAS
Final College Football Researchers Association
1. ARKANSAS
Final Helms Athletic Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final National Championship Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final Poling System
1. ARKANSAS
Final Sagarin Ratings
1. ARKANSAS
ALABAMA...10-1
ARKANSAS..11-0
HELLO!!
ALL recognized by the NCAA and are listed in the Official NCAA Records Book
That's a long list of polls that don't matter.
And the NCAA doesn't have official record books on national champions, they aren't involved in the process at all.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:44 pm to 3down10
Most of those aren't even polls. 
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:46 pm to JetDawg
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I have no beef with the UPI/AP polls...what Alabama fails to recognize is the fact that during this period (I know, I lived and covered sports during this time), the two service wire polls were not the only major polls and were not the only polls recognized by the NCAA.
You are full of shite because the NCAA has never in history "recognized" anything in regards to national championships.
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Regardless of how the news wire polls were determined, the other polls were also highly recognized and whichever team won the CONSENSUS of all the polls was generally looked upon as the one who more rightly could claim the title. The NCAA allows any school that has been voted #1 in any final poll to claim the national title.
The NCAA does allow any school to claim whatever they want...because once again the NCAA is not involved in the process.
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Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).
Aside from 1941, this is bullshite. And 1941 is a math poll only 5 years off the AP. I think it's a bullshite claim, but is not even close to as bad as what many claim - Including 1964 Arkansas.
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Example: 1941 (finished 9-2), 1973 (lost to Notre Dame in bowl game, ND consensus champ), 1978 (lost to USC)
Yeah, it wasn't a problem for the NC to lose a bowl game until Alabama did it. And in 1978, USC went on to lose to a worse team than Alabama. And in the final bowl game, #2 Alabama beat #1 Penn St, while USC played a mediocre Michigan team in the Rose Bowl. I think #3 vs #6 or something.
It's funny people want to ignore USC losing to an unranked team. And if they hadn't forced everyone out of the Rose Bowl, they could have played a better team.
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Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).
A shared title is where one team wins the AP and another wins the Coaches/UPI. Not just any poll or ranking system.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:57 pm to JetDawg
Youre full of shite.. you literally just made up some talking points and tried to play the "I covered sports back then " card ...lol
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:57 pm to 3down10
What does the NCAA website say?
I can’t remember
I can’t remember
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:59 pm to 3down10
NCAA does have a list of NCs
Example. They give both of us 1964
Example two. Ole Miss claims 3 but NCAA recognizes 1.
You can’t just claim a title and the NCAA agree
Example. They give both of us 1964
Example two. Ole Miss claims 3 but NCAA recognizes 1.
You can’t just claim a title and the NCAA agree
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:05 pm to Golfer1
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NCAA does have a list of NCs
Example. They give both of us 1964
Example two. Ole Miss claims 3 but NCAA recognizes 1.
You can’t just claim a title and the NCAA agree
No, they have a website with articles on it, and some editor/writer went and listed stuff.
The NCAA doesn't award a national championship for FBS and isn't involved in it. There is nobody who officially sits there and analyzes what is correct and what isn't, or anything like that. No rules on what counts and what doesn't etc.
We would easily be able to find the rules/guidelines for this if the NCAA was actually involved, such things do not exist.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:10 pm to JetDawg
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dullard
Such an underused word today
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