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re: “Conference foe” despite playing once every 4 or so years?

Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58501 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:03 pm to
Waaa waaa "Why is the SEC so much better than every other conference?" Waaa waaa
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Why not start scheduling 12 high school teams and zero conference games, and the SEC will go undefeated and monopolize the 12 CFP teams?


You just proved the point of the thread. That’s how you win arguments.

Less Conference games = better overall records = inflated rankings
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22970 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Why does the SEC only schedule 8 conference games and how is that fair compared to other conferences playing 9?


Better competition. And it's not even debatable.

Posted by Big Bang Rookie
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
814 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Less Conference games = better overall records = inflated rankings


Except when we are playing the best against the best at the end we win championships more that any other conference. Just think how weak that makes your conference when we have cupcakes all year then smack your best at the end!
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22970 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:10 pm to
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inflated rankings



SEC domination of National Championships proves that your entire argument is invalid.

Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:15 pm to
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SEC domination of National Championships proves that your entire argument is invalid.


False. That proves the SEC is top heavy which NO ONE argues. It’s #3 and below where the inflation hits the hardest
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22970 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:16 pm to
Other conferences play more games against worse teams

quote:

More Conference games in inferior conferences= better overall records = inflated rankings



FIFY

And that's why you guys usually get humiliated in playoff appearances.
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:17 pm to
Nice cherry pick.

Why is the Big 12 4-1 against the SEC in the most recent bowl games?
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19890 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:20 pm to
That’s 6 or 7 more SEC games than anyone else is scheduling
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2051 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 1:21 pm to
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quote:
Why not start scheduling 12 high school teams and zero conference games, and the SEC will go undefeated and monopolize the 12 CFP teams?

UGA has played and beaten 5 currently ranked teams. Who in the big 12 has played more?


If the SEC played 9 conference games, half the teams would have one more loss, so your 8-4 ranked teams wouldn't be ranked at 7-5.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
11616 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 1:27 pm to
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Why does the SEC only schedule 8 conference games and how is that fair compared to other conferences playing 9?


The SEC should play 9 games, abolish divisions, and every P4/5 conference should be required to play 2 P4/5 OOC game. There would be more data points to draw from to see who deserves to be in the playoffs.
Posted by ClassicCityAlum
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2019
884 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 1:27 pm to
In this century, the SEC has produced:

- the most national championships
- the most individual teams who have won national championships (thus destroying the “top heavy” allegation)
- the most bowl wins
- the most NFL players (thus proving it is the most talented conference by a wide margin)
- the most Heisman winners


Why is the Big 12 falling to pieces? Why was the Big 12 forced to play each team against each other in the regular season (lest they lose P5 status)? Why is the Big 12’s only playoff team predicted to be throttled by a team historically owned by the SEC (30-11 lol)?

So many SEC players sit out of bowl games (thus depleting their teams) because they are going to the NFL. Big 12 fortunately doesn’t have to suffer that nuisance.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4057 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 1:59 pm to
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You just proved the point of the thread. That’s how you win arguments.

Less Conference games = better overall records = inflated rankings

So does the SEC just get lucky in the playoffs? I mean that has to be the case if the rankings for the SEC are overinflated. It's crazy seeing the following playoff records:

SEC 14-5 - .737
ACC 6-6 - .500
Big 10 3-5 - .375
Big 12 0-4 - .000 (ooomph)
Pac 12 1-2 - .333
Independent - 0-1 .000
American - 0-1 .000

If the SEC is overrated in the rankings, one would expect them to lose most of their playoff games instead of having a winning % almost 400% higher than their nearest competitor. Doesn't make sense. And if an unnamed conference were being underrated, don't you think that conference might sniff a single playoff win by now?
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by 195bc
Member since Mar 2022
154 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:24 pm to
Please post your non-conference schedule for each of the past 10 years. Then tell me you had more than nine "tough" games. Then look at nearly every SEC team's non-conference schedule, which is eight conference games and one or more P5 OOC game.

In case you forgot Baylor's OOC schedule each year for the recent past, let me help you out:

2022 - Albany, BYU, Texas State (BYU is usually considered a P5 team)
2021 - Texas State, Texas Southern, BYU
2020 - Louisiana Tech, Houston (no P5)
2019 - Stephen F. Austin, UTSA, RIce (no P5)
2018 - Abiline Christian, UTSA, Duke (Duke is a stretch to call a P5 team 9 our of 10 years)
2017 - Liberty, UT San Antonio, Duke
2016 - Northwestern State, SMU, Rice (no P5)
2015 - SMU, Lamar, Rice (no P5)
2014 - SMU, Northwestern State, Buffalo (no P5)
2013 - Wofford, Buffalo, Louisiana Monroe (no P5)
2012 - SMU, Sam Houston State, Louisiana Monroe (no P5)

In summary, Baylor's non-conference schedule is about as weak as you can get. So what are you saying is unfair?
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2877 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:30 pm to
First of all, we don't make our scheduling decisions based on what other conferences think or do.

Secondly, get back to us after your 2 best teams play Bama and Michigan Saturday.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:35 pm to
We've proven we're the premier conference on the field, so we don't have to care if we play 8 or 9 conference games.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19890 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

If the SEC played 9 conference games, half the teams would have one more loss, so your 8-4 ranked teams wouldn't be ranked at 7-5.


Actually they would just drop the OOC P5 matchups to ensure an extra win.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50787 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:48 pm to
Why does Baylor schedule Air Force for a bowl game
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7233 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:49 pm to
Does a bleeding vagina come with B12 membership?

It'd explain a whole lot.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:50 pm to
You're more than welcome to take Texas A&M and Missouri back and keep Texas and Oklahoma.
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