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re: Committee only uses Eye Test
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:33 pm to DannyByGodFord
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:33 pm to DannyByGodFord
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They reward UGA for their wins but have Minnesota 8th even though they have the 2nd best win of the undefeated teams.
If Minnesota had a 2nd quality win, and didnt look like crap in month 1, they would be ranked higher than they are.
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:49 pm to tigerskin
quote:People keep saying that, but I don't know...
If Baylor wins out, they are in. Simple as that
the latest poll I saw had UGA 4, Bama 5, Oregon/Utah right behind Bama, and then several Big 10 potentials between that group and Oklahoma. Baylor wasn't listed, OU was the last spot.
The way it shakes out if you go by chalk-
LSU knocks UGA out, which leaves spot #4 open for either Bama, or the Oregon/Utah winner.
I don't see Bama losing, so it's iffy that they drop below the Pac 12 winner (I think it will need to be both at 11-1 going in to do it). Looks to be zero chance for the Big 12, barring some major upsets.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:06 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Quality wins > quality losses
Penn State has 2 top 20 wins and 1 loss to a Top 10. Why didn't the committee follow their guidelines and put them ahead of Bama
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:46 pm to weadjust
Baylor’s D is top 5 in the country; they clamp everyone. Brewer is currently one of the most clutch QBs in the nation and the WR group is a nightmare for any team.
I honestly think Baylor would beat every team but Bama and LSU and it would be under 10 with a punchers chance.
I think Hurts gets ROCKED when we blitz him on Saturday and win like we have been all year; driving down the field and scoring with the the game on the line
I honestly think Baylor would beat every team but Bama and LSU and it would be under 10 with a punchers chance.
I think Hurts gets ROCKED when we blitz him on Saturday and win like we have been all year; driving down the field and scoring with the the game on the line
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:19 am to Atlbear16
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I honestly think Baylor would beat every team but Bama and LSU and it would be under 10 with a punchers chance.
Lolololol. Clemson, Ohio St wouldn’t be pretty. Come on man. You go triple OT with tech and TCU yet you would beat Ohio St and Clemson. Ok.....
Bookmarked for Saturday after y’all “destroy” Hurts.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:48 am to Atlbear16
Baylor doesn't have a playoff statement win on the schedule at all this year. OU is stumbling, Texas is mediocre, and the rest of the Big 12 is garbage.
Minnesota beat a top 4 Penn St team last weekend. That sends a statement that you can beat anyone in the country. Baylors toughest game of the year is an OU team that lost to K State and struggled to beat Iowa State.
That kind of schedule didn't get undefeated UCF in, and it shouldn't get Baylor in.
Minnesota beat a top 4 Penn St team last weekend. That sends a statement that you can beat anyone in the country. Baylors toughest game of the year is an OU team that lost to K State and struggled to beat Iowa State.
That kind of schedule didn't get undefeated UCF in, and it shouldn't get Baylor in.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:54 am to Krampus
Exactly. I had forgotten how delusional Baylor fans can be.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:56 am to Atlbear16
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Committee only uses Eye Test
Clearly.
How does Alabama get ranked ahead of Minnesota when they don't have a single win against a team currently ranked in the top 25?
Oh, but Alabama does have that quality loss.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:45 am to Monkey business
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It seems like they value
A) Quality wins
B) conference champions
More than a loss to a bad team for example
As it should be. If college football has taught any of us anything it's that good teams have bad games but that doesn't make them bad teams. What separates the great teams from the good teams is that they go into the big games and play their best.
There's been several national championship teams that have dropped games against unranked opponents while dominating the ranked opponents on their schedule.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:50 am to nola000
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If college football has taught any of us anything it's that good teams have bad games but that doesn't make them bad teams. What separates the great teams from the good teams is that they go into the big games and play their best.
Holy shite this "logic."
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:55 am to Atlbear16
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Eye test for Bama. They see SEC team and assume they are good. I should have clarified
Well, because they are.
Look, I despise bias as much as anybody and I always root for the underdog. I'm definitely rooting for teams like Baylor and Minnesota this year but it's hard to know how good teams are when they rarely play out of conference foes in the P5.
I mean, is the Pac-12 that bad or are they all just really good and they're beating each other up? I'm not suggesting that's the case but just to illustrate my point. That's why the SEC officiating always favor the team in any given SEC matchup that has the best chance to make the cfp or the NC. If SEC matchups were officiated better, we would see more upsets in the SEC because pretty much all the teams have talent and get up for rivalries.
If teams in the individual conferences were allowed to beat each other up too bad then there would be no representative from that conference.
The one time of year we get to see conferences play each other is during the bowl season. This is where people get the idea that the SEC is dominant. Because in bowl season, they have been. Plus all those national championships. I believe that this is what the committee is basing their perceptions of conference power on.
Losing an SEC game doesn't hurt you as much and winning an SEC game boosts you more. That's why you don't see SEC teams drop too far after a loss and you see them shoot up several spots after a win.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:56 am to Atlbear16
If Baylor beats OU and UT they are in.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:59 am to Scoob
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The way it shakes out if you go by chalk-
LSU knocks UGA out, which leaves spot #4 open for either Bama, or the Oregon/Utah winner.
I don't see Bama losing, so it's iffy that they drop below the Pac 12 winner (I think it will need to be both at 11-1 going in to do it). Looks to be zero chance for the Big 12, barring some major upsets.
If Baylor wins out they will have wins against Oklahoma, Texas, and the B12 championship game... No way an undefeated team with those wins gets left out for Bama who will have at best 1 quality-ish win vs Auburn or a Pac12 team who didn't beat anyone with a pulse besides the other contender (Utah/Oregon).
Committee showed you dont have to lose to drop this week by putting LSU over Ohio St even though Ohio St blew the brakes off Maryland. A quality win can elevate you over a team who just takes care of business.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:00 am to Atlbear16
Baylor and Minnesota will be in the top four if they win out. All the boohooing is for naught.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:02 am to Atlbear16
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honestly think Baylor would beat every team but Bama and LSU and it would be under 10 with a punchers chance.
So explain Texas tech beating Baylor without the refs? And all those terrible wins?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:10 am to Capo Losi
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Committee and "eye test" is a joke. Eye test is code for best tv ratings..
This.
One of the arguments for human panel making these selections was that there are things in a football game that a computer algorithm can't account for. Of course, we all know that's bulshit because you can assign values to any item you want including injuries, injuries to specific players at specific positions, let downs after big wins or losses, etc.
Humans don't want computers to have control because then the power is out of their hands. The movers and shakers of college football don't care about parity, competition or a level playing field, they care about controlling the matchups for the big games. Especially members of the media and the television networks. Advertising dollars is what's controlling who gets into the cfp.
Eyeballs.
It's no coincidence they call it the 'eye test'. It is in fact code for television viewers. Just to give you an example. The Alabama LSU matchup had around 16 million viewers. The Georgia Notre Dame matchup, if I remember correctly, had around 8 million viewers. That is potentially double the advertising Revenue. That's what drives these big television contracts so the conferences and universities that don't really have strong Sports programs are complicit in wanting certain matchups as well.
This is why you can have members of the media talking out of both sides of their mouth within a 48-hour period. Right before the Alabama LSU game Paul Finebaum was screaming that there's no way Alabama gets into the college football playoff if they don't win this game. 24 hours later he's lobbying for Alabama, with the loss, to get into the college football playoff. They don't even try to hide it anymore. There's zero explanation for that turnaround other than that juicy 16 million viewers. Imagine what it would be for a playoff game.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:17 am to Atlbear16
quote:oh
I honestly think Baylor would beat every team but Bama and LSU and it would be under 10 with a punchers chance.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:23 am to dallastiger55
I did forget Ohio State and Clemson but I think we could keep the game within a score and still have a pinchers chance. Let’s not forget Clemson beat UNC by one
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:30 am to Atlbear16
Minnesota is the only one that could claim the spot. Baylor’s has had a Clemson’esque schedule to this point. Minnesota has a top 10 win
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:32 am to Atlbear16
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Winning games is not the focus here
If Baylor wins out, it doesn't matter. They'll jump everyone to 4.
What will be crap is if OU/Baylor is a 1 loss champ and Bama gets in over them. UGA will not get in if they don't win the SEC.
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