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Coach O is the best coach in CFB, and here's why

Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by sheauxtime40
Member since Apr 2015
50 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:06 pm
I'll preface this by posing a rhetorical question to all of you simple minded fools who dismiss O: What in the hell do you think the head coach's job really is?

Head coach has two main functions for on-field success:

(1) Recruit: check
(2) hire a good staff: check

Many of you retreat to the narrative that Brady won this title, not O. Does Nick/Dabo/Kirby call Xs and Os on offense? Regardless, every head coach has either an offensive or defensive background in which case he relies on another (either OC or DC) to get his team halfway there.

O identified and hired a great young coach while completely revamping his offense, overnight. Why didn't Saban or Kirby hire Brady. Why did Kirby continue to run a Les Miles offense? BTW, Saban brought in Brady to run a clinic for his guys after the season, having clearly identified a need for his knowledge. Would have come in handy 9 months earlier no?

Lets talk game management: one of the biggest knocks against Les was his game management. You can't point to many gaffs by O in the last three seasons. How about 3rd and 17? You want to say that Brady called the play that beat Texas, but it was O who cut his guys loose to execute. He didn't hamstring them and tell them to run/punt/play D. Do you think Kirby would have done that? Not likely.

Lets talk Ole Miss: for those of you have have had the good fortune of working in the same industry for 10/15/20 years, are you not better, wiser, and more knowledgeable than you were when you first started? It appears O is.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:07 pm to
CEO will make a dynasty run at LSU
Posted by Tigerbait1977
Fort Worth, Texas
Member since Jun 2020
2959 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:08 pm to
I’m a LSU fan, but O is not quite up their with Dabo, Saban. He has to prove it over a longer period time. Yes, he’s a top 5 coach but not the best. With 1 more title I would possibly put him over dabo. Just not quite their yet.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93600 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:09 pm to
Coach O has done it for one season. He's got a long way to go to over take guys that have done it more consistently. This is just silly.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Head coach has two main functions for on-field success:

(1) Recruit: check
(2) hire a good staff: check



There's more to being a head coach than just those two things
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:13 pm to
I’m just happy to see his willingness to adjust and not allow his ego get in the way of success. God damn you Les.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Member since May 2014
6949 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:16 pm to
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Lets talk


LSU fans.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:19 pm to
He has had 4 seasons at lsu as head coach.. he has one natty. Saba and dabo have been at their schools as head coach for a long time. Cant really compare yet, but he sure as hell trending in their direction
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93600 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Cant really compare yet, but he sure as hell trending in their direction

Yep. If he continues coaching the way he coached in 2019, he has a chance to be the best coach with the way he can recruit.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
17993 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

quote:

Head coach has two main functions for on-field success:

(1) Recruit: check
(2) hire a good staff: check


There's more to being a head coach than just those two things


Somehow, I think you are missing the gentleman’s point.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Somehow, I think you are missing the gentleman’s point.


Maybe, go ahead and enlighten me on the subject then.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9656 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:08 pm to
Gene Chizik won a national title.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30807 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:10 pm to
I wonder how many people thought this about Chizik after 2010?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:12 pm to
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I wonder how many people thought this about Chizik after 2010?


8-5
14-0
8-5

9-4
10-3
15-0

Hmm can you spot the difference?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93600 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:12 pm to
Chizik wasn't recruting at the level that O is and that was part of the criteria laid out. I think it's way too premature to proclaim O the best in CFB, but the Chizik comparison doesn't really fit.
Posted by PokeyTiger
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2020
1968 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

I’m a LSU fan, but O is not quite up their with Dabo, Saban. He has to prove it over a longer period time. Yes, he’s a top 5 coach but not the best. With 1 more title I would possibly put him over dabo. Just not quite their yet.


Another anal-retentive — Has to see or have their schitt pushed in before getting off fence

Another LSU playoff while Sabah goes down the tubes convince you Karen? Stay tuned!
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:17 pm to
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I wonder how many people thought this about Chizik after 2010?


quote:

Hmm can you spot the difference?


quote:

8-5


That you don't understand how linear time works? How does his 2011 record play into what people thought after the end of the 2010 season completed?

Unless some drastic events have taken place, Auburn fans are not running around in time machines.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:18 pm to
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That you don't understand how linear time works? How does his 2011 record play into what people thought after the end of the 2010 season completed?

Unless some drastic events have taken place, Auburn fans are not running around in time machines.


Chizik wasn't recruiting at the level O was and was still playing the prior coaches players anyway.

Anyone who thought 2010 was about Chizik should've known better.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3699 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:20 pm to
Coach O and 8?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30807 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Chizik wasn't recruting at the level that O is and that was part of the criteria laid out. I think it's way too premature to proclaim O the best in CFB, but the Chizik comparison doesn't really fit.


Auburn finished #3 in the SEC for the 2010 recruiting class and #2 in the SEC for the 2011 recruiting class.

LSU finished #4 in 2019 and #3 in 2020.
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