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re: Clemson's likelihood of winning each game ahead
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:25 am to BHMKyle
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:25 am to BHMKyle
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This is similar to the Florida State program in the 90s.
A great team benefiting from a weak ACC.
I spelled it out a few weeks ago, but this is revisionist history that's frankly not true. Yes, the ACC was weak in the '90s, but Florida State played an absolute brutal OOC schedule nearly every year in the early to mid 1990s.
First off, they played Florida and Miami every single season OOC. That in and of itself gave FSU a very difficult schedule:
1990: #3 Miami; #13 Florida; #19 Auburn
1991: #1 Miami; #6 Michigan; #7 Florida; #11 Syracuse
1992: #3 Miami; #10 Florida
1993: #2 Notre Dame; #5 Florida; #15 Miami
1994: #6 Miami; #7 Florida
1995: #2 Florida; #20 Miami
1996: #1 Florida; #14 Miami
That's on top of their ACC schedule from 1992 on...
I don't see anything like the above from Clemson. Not even close. And the above was done during the age of only playing 11 regular season games which makes it all the more impressive.
Any Clemson people who liken their schedule to FSU in the 1990s are flat out ignorant about the gauntlet the Seminoles signed themselves up for each year back then.
The game is completely different now. It's more accurate to compare the last 5-7 years than something that happened a generation ago. The rules, offenses and defenses have changed so much that it's not recognizable. Back then, a lot of teams were running the pro-set or some variation and the HUNH had really not emerged. Perennial powers could load up in great athletes and play against teams using the same style of play and literal out-athlete people.
In the spread era, smaller and perhaps less skilled teams could compete with the bigger and more talented teams but wearing them down.
Also, FSu didn't have to play 2 extra games...
I get what you are saying and for that era you are correct but it's really apples and oranges
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:32 am to armtackledawg
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All of those teams are overrated so that schedule is not as hard as it looks
well....you said it...
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:35 am to skrayper
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They have LSU (70.4%), Auburn (77.8%), and MSU (83.1%) all tougher than Clemson's "toughest" remaining game. (Plus Texas A&M, but Clemson also played A&M already so leaving them off).
So Alabama (comparable FPI) plays the two toughest teams on South Carolina's schedule (Texas A&M and South Carolina), one school that's a much harder out (LSU), one school on par with A&M (Auburn) and one school a decent bit tougher than South Carolina (MSU) as well as South Carolina themselves.
That's just Alabama. Should we go into other Playoff hopefuls?
Ohio State - 7 games tougher
LSU - 5 games tougher
Oklahoma - 5 games tougher
Georgia - 5 games tougher
The amazing part of that is Clemson has beaten every team in your post except MSU and Georgia the last time they played in it's current run.
Clemson - Good.
SEC - Not As Good.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:39 am to cocky4ever
Haha that’s a good one.
I’m not trying to be hard to get along with with this, my wife has a graduate degree from Carolina and I get along with most people from Carolina , but you do realize your team plays Clemson and has a chance to do something about it.
I’m not trying to be hard to get along with with this, my wife has a graduate degree from Carolina and I get along with most people from Carolina , but you do realize your team plays Clemson and has a chance to do something about it.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:43 am to BHMKyle
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And let's get real about Texas A&M... especially considering this series was booked way before Jimbo Fisher was hired... The Aggies have exactly one Top 15 finish in the last two decades of football.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:46 am to DannyByGodFord
I brought this up in another thread, but going into this weekend, the score was 28-27 SEC leading.
Clemson beat Tex A&M this weekend, so now its 28-28.
Clemson beat Tex A&M this weekend, so now its 28-28.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:57 am to armtackledawg
So are you saying when Clemson plays A&M and ND they are shite but when UGA plays them they are good?
Please tell me that’s not what you are saying and I misunderstood you.
Please tell me that’s not what you are saying and I misunderstood you.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:06 pm to walkerMYdawg1980
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:07 pm to Icoachfb
Not sure you caught the sarcasm.
Anyway, Clemson doesn't play ND this year, and A&M was its best opponent, including the conference title game.
Anyway, Clemson doesn't play ND this year, and A&M was its best opponent, including the conference title game.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:12 pm to BHMKyle
They could punish them like they did to FSU that one year and drop them to a lower seed
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:13 pm to armtackledawg
Probably didn’t. Trying to do several things at once.
I agree with you about A&M.
I agree with you about A&M.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:16 pm to BHMKyle
Collectively, that gives them a 61.1% chance to go 12-0 in the reg season. Seems kind of low.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:18 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Cool. Number one seed has never won it anyway. I’ll take a 2 or 3. You got to win two games anyway
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:51 pm to IStillMissDanny
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The amazing part of that is Clemson has beaten every team in your post except MSU and Georgia the last time they played in it's current run.
Completely irrelevant. I mean, in the 2017 playoffs Alabama made Clemson's offense look inept. Does this mean we automatically won the next game? You guys gonna forfeit last year's championship game in order to maintain this narrative?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:53 pm to koreandawg
Maryland beat Texas last year. Texas had a pretty good season even though they played in a shitty bowl game
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