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re: Class move by coach Saban
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:41 pm to cas4t
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:41 pm to cas4t
He should be suspended for a game. He made a stupid mistake. It's great that Saban stepped in rather than just ignore it. The bigger problem, imho, is that the SEC has set a precedent based on player safety. Even if Saban intends to sit him this week, the SEC needs to make it official. To me, it's the right thing to do.
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Well, Alabama already addressed it... so it's been handled. He's a third stringer, so it's not like officially suspending him will do any good if he wasn't going to play.
I understand the point... and if Alabama hadn't said anything, I can see the outrage if the SEC doesn't do anything.
I have said all along it was an ugly and careless hit, and that it's lucky the guy landed the way he did so that his neck wasn't snapped. That said... in general, I think as long as the school is acknowledging the issue, the SEC's vocal involvement is unnecessary.
I'm trying to remember when a coach said something was being handled internally and the SEC said they were suspending him anyway.
I understand the point... and if Alabama hadn't said anything, I can see the outrage if the SEC doesn't do anything.
I have said all along it was an ugly and careless hit, and that it's lucky the guy landed the way he did so that his neck wasn't snapped. That said... in general, I think as long as the school is acknowledging the issue, the SEC's vocal involvement is unnecessary.
I'm trying to remember when a coach said something was being handled internally and the SEC said they were suspending him anyway.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:44 pm to BOHICA
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Even if Saban intends to sit him this week, the SEC needs to make it official. To me, it's the right thing to do.
I agree.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:44 pm to TideSatchel
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Freeze should have had Elston apologize.
Why???? It was a clean hit. He didn't lead with his head at all.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:44 pm to Bellabama
Slive is scared of Saban 
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:45 pm to Bellabama
Writing a letter of apology is not enough. He deserves a suspension. And I would think that if it were an LSU player too.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:47 pm to cas4t
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He deserves a suspension. And I would think that if it were an LSU player too.
He absolutely does. I just don't think the SEC should be reiterating suspensions if the school is taking care of it. And I would think that about another team too.
My understanding with the Ole Miss situation was that since no one had acknowledged it, they did.
If the kid is sitting out and can't play, what difference does it make who makes him do it?
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:50 pm to Bellabama
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If the kid is sitting out and can't play, what difference does it make who makes him do it?
We didn't acknowledge it because the refs and everyone else thought it was clean. The UTEP players and coaches weren't even calling for a flag. It was just the SEC making an example trying to make it look like they care about player safety. This is 10x worse than what Elson did and if the SEC doesn't take any official action I won't be happy.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:51 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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We didn't acknowledge it because the refs and everyone else thought it was clean. The UTEP players and coaches weren't even calling for a flag. It was just the SEC making an example trying to make it look like they care about player safety.
Right... So they didn't like it, so they suspended him because no one else called it. If everyone is acknowledging it, why does the SEC need to act?
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:53 pm to JAF65
Saban is a class act.
He's the most strict disciplinarian in football.
Just think how dangerous Bama's D'line would be if coach Saban didn't keep them in check.
He's the most strict disciplinarian in football.
Just think how dangerous Bama's D'line would be if coach Saban didn't keep them in check.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:53 pm to Bellabama
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why does the SEC need to act?
The SEC taking action would be like a safety net making sure that he won't slip onto the field. Not that I think Saban would let him anyway. It's just nice to know we aren't being singled out and Bama is being given a pass.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:53 pm to Bellabama
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If the kid is sitting out and can't play, what difference does it make who makes him do it?
Because this isn't the good ole boy system. "Hell Nick said he'll handle it" isn't how it should work.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:56 pm to cas4t
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Because this isn't the good ole boy system. "Hell Nick said he'll handle it" isn't how it should work.
So last year when TM7 hit Dre, the SEC should have interjected and Suspended him? Because Miles shouldn't have been able to handle it internally?
I assume that Miles gave him a hard time that week. I'm comfortable with that.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 7:59 pm to Bellabama
Did Fanning say he had too much Bama in him?
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:00 pm to Bellabama
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So last year when TM7 hit Dre, the SEC should have interjected and Suspended him?
Although I don't think his hit compares to a suplex, sure. Fair is fair. Not every coach treats situations the same so you have to set a precedent amongst the entire conference, IMO.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:06 pm to cas4t
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Although I don't think his hit compares to a suplex, sure. Fair is fair. Not every coach treats situations the same so you have to set a precedent amongst the entire conference, IMO.
The difference is Les didn't do anything. He let honey bunny do as he pleased.
see how that ended.
Need to be a strong disciplinarian like Saban.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:07 pm to LOYALBAMA
Les kicks more talent off LSU than UT has recruited in the last decade.
He is very discipline.
And that play wasn't half as bad as the suplex. He could have broken his neck.
He is very discipline.
And that play wasn't half as bad as the suplex. He could have broken his neck.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:13 pm to cas4t
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Although I don't think his hit compares to a suplex, sure. Fair is fair. Not every coach treats situations the same so you have to set a precedent amongst the entire conference, IMO.
It doesn't, but it rung Dre's head, he was hurt, and it was after Mathieu had been trash talking all week. So maybe the hit on its surface was less severe, but you could make an argument that it was more intentional.
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Not every coach treats situations the same so you have to set a precedent amongst the entire conference, IMO.
That's a fair point. To that point though, if he kept doing it, I could see the SEC stepping in. In the meantime, it opens the door for a shitload of tackles to be reviewed and the power for a lot of players to be suspended.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:19 pm to cas4t
I disagree, we can't quibble about some speculative degree of danger. tm's hit should have been punished. I personally could not care less about what other teams do or don't do. When Alabama plays i want to see hard hitting , but clean, play and good sportsmanship period.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:31 pm to NYCAuburn
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I didn't have a huge problem with it. It was a bad tackle but not malicious
Picking up a player off the ground, and driving thier head into the ground via a suplex is.....malicious.
Does he deserve to be suspended? Only if other have for the same thing. If they have'nt, it would'nt be fair to Fanning. I think Saban can handle this kid in a way that will be more effective than the SEC.
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