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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by TigerFan4040
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:07 pm to
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No Damien Harris and No devin White makes the whole list worthless


Yep, list is whack.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Those guys were backups or specialists. Harris is just the #1 in a group of 3-4 guys on a team that has been winning most of their games by 30 points at halftime, and his total yards are still very similar to the top 2 backs.


The point being, splitting reps with other backs can skew YPC. Adding carries typically does not equate into the same YPC on forward
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:11 pm to
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am saying Yards per game and total yards/TD's on the season matter. Yards per game merely for comparing backs who played different amount of games, like HW's 11 games a season vs Henry's '15


Ok. I am just getting a feeling, because some Auburn fans say Herschel doesn't count because he got all those carries, but then say it doesn't matter when discussing Johnson.

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Bo's mystique comes from a few other aspects.

He was an athletic machine. Bo and Herschel will always be my two favorite running backs of all time.
Posted by TheGusBus34
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:12 pm to
So the SEC's leading Rusher and Nation leading TD leader Kerryon Johnson isn't on the list?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:12 pm to
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I don't know how you can discount his YPC.


YPC is a great stat in its own right, but when it comes to RBs, total yards and TDs are what to be judged on, just like with QBs Total yards, TDs are #1, yards per pass is down the road. great stat but not what you judge a QB by.

Posted by Thatawesomeguy4
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:14 pm to
Everyone always ignores what Kelly produces in the passing game. He has like 200 receiving yards on top of his rushing yards. He is literally our entire offense.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:15 pm to
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The point being, splitting reps with other backs can skew YPC. Adding carries typically does not equate into the same YPC on forward


I mean I agree generally, but he's averaging 9.56 YPC on 11 carries per game against P5 teams (almost all of these in the 1st and 2nd qtr, not late in games against tired defenses). If you gave him 10 more carries at even 2 YPC (assuming a massive decrease) he's still sitting at 122 yards on 20 carries, which is still over 6+ YPC.

Either way, it really doesn't matter. I'm ecstatic that we have 3 other guys who we can rotate in and keep him (and them) completely fresh and hopefully healthy.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:15 pm to
No. Ypc is bigger than total.

TD can be subjective too. Smaller backs score less cause bigger backs take goal line carries. Per and Thompson get the ball for UF near goal line. But Davis gets it there.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:17 pm to
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4. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
5. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)


Ha
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:19 pm to
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No. Ypc is bigger than total.


Has a Doak Walker or Heisman award winner ever lead in YPC?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Everyone always ignores what Kelly produces in the passing game. He has like 200 receiving yards on top of his rushing yards. He is literally our entire offense.




I'm not so sure that is literally true.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:23 pm to
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I'm not so sure that is literally true.


It's kind of sad that 200 yards receiving and 615 yards rushing is the entire offense 7-8 games into the season
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:39 pm to
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It's kind of sad that 200 yards receiving and 615 yards rushing is the entire offense 7-8 games into the season





Kelly has accounted for 43% of Tennessee's yards this season. 71% of their rush yards and 22% of their receiving yards.


Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:42 pm to
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It's kind of sad that 200 yards receiving and 615 yards rushing is the entire offense 7-8 games into the season


Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Kelly has accounted for 43% of Tennessee's yards this season. 71% of their rush yards and 22% of their receiving yards.


While impressive that is not "literally" their entire offense.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
No Kerryon Johnson? He is only leading the SEC in rushing yards, yards per game, attempts per game, and fricking Tds.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:19 pm to
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While impressive that is not "literally" their entire offense.


Unfortunately... Merriam Webster decided a few years ago to disagree with you...

LINK

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Literally every modern dictionary includes a definition for the metaphoric or intensifying sense of the word literally. Why do we hate the English language so?

We don’t.

There is no plot by dictionary-makers to destroy our language. There is not even a plot to loosen our language's morals and corrupt it a bit. There is, however, a strong impulse among lexicographers to catalog the language as it is used, and there is a considerable body of evidence indicating that literally has been used in this fashion for a very long time. All of the dictionaries listed above also provide usage notes with the definition of literally, indicating that this sense is widely frowned upon. We include a note as well, which reads as follows:

Since some people take sense 2 to be the opposite of sense 1, it has been frequently criticized as a misuse. Instead, the use is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary.

If this sense of literally is bothersome, you needn’t use it. If you dislike hearing other people use it, you may continue to be upset. If you would like to broaden your complaint slightly, and insist that the original meaning of literal is the only proper one, go right ahead (although, before committing to this, you should be aware that this will restrict you to using literal when you mean “of, relating to, or expressed in letters”).

The use of literally in a fashion that is hyperbolic or metaphoric is not new—evidence of this use dates back to 1769. Its inclusion in a dictionary isn't new either; the entry for literally in our 1909 unabridged dictionary states that the word is “often used hyperbolically; as, he literally flew.” We (and all the other “craven dictionary editors”) have included this definition for a very simple reason: a lot of people use it this way, and our entries are based on evidence of use. Furthermore, the fact that so many people are writing angry letters serves as a sort of secondhand evidence, as they would hardly be complaining about this usage if it had not become common.

We understand that many have chosen this particular issue as the one about which they choose to draw a line in the sand, on the grounds that a word should not mean one thing and its opposite (a fairly common thing in English). But a living language is a language that is always changing; this change may be lovely, and it may be ugly. As lexicographers we are in the business of defining language, rather than judging it.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
Ok. How long have you been waiting to use that?
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:25 pm to
What a shite list... And I'm not even talking about LSU.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 3:35 pm to
list screams sloppiness and laziness without Devin White.
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