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Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:11 pm to NYCAuburn
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:11 pm to NYCAuburn
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YPC is a great stat, but lets get real here Total yards and TDs are what matters when it comes to RBs, sometimes yards a game.
From your post
Johnson has 587 yards on 121 carries in the SEC
Harris has 539 yards on 55 carries in the SEC
Harris has almost equaled Johnsons yardages output with less than half the carries
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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NB - Kevin Toliver, LSU
Plays CB
Jackson is the NB
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:14 pm to thunderbird1100
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Plays CB Jackson is the NB
They just wanted to stick 3 actual CBs on there so they labeled him a NB.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:14 pm to NYCAuburn
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Attempts dont matter. HW averaged 30+ a game for three years and 35 during his top season, but that is never discussed as a detractor
Are you saying it is a factor or not? Because you can decide if you want to promote Herschel over Bo or Chubb over Johnson.
That said....Auburn has played more conference games than Georgia (And most SEC teams), too. (That said for the "Compare only by conference statistics" post)
ETA
And I think his point was that missing two games has not hurt Johnson's chances at production.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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9. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
10. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:16 pm to CockyTime
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Also Deebo for KR. Dude had 6 TD's in 2.5 games. He may be back soon also
Wait, are you serious? Thought he was out for the year.
Edit: Nm, maybe for the bowl game. Was about to go pick him up in my cfb fantasy league.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Leaders in SEC Play - YPC (min 20 carries) 1. Damien Harris, BAMA (9.80) (539 yards, 55 att) 2. D'Andre Swift, UGA (9.24) (231 yards, 25 att) 3. Sony Michel, UGA (8.51) (332 yards, 39 att) 4. Elijay Holyfield, UGA (7.50) (150 yards, 20 att) 5. Josh Jacobs, BAMA (7.17) (165 yards, 23 att) 6. Najee Harris, BAMA (6.76) (196 yards, 29 att) 7. Malik Davis, FLA (6.73) (498 yards, 74 att) 8. Jordan Wilkins, MISS (6.52) (365 yards, 56 att) 9. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att) 10. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
Fake news
Kam Martin is averaging 8.0 ypc in 33 att
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:18 pm to lsupride87
RB Leaders in SEC Play - YPC (min 40 carries)
1. Damien Harris, BAMA (9.80) (539 yards, 55 att)
2. Malik Davis, FLA (6.73) (498 yards, 74 att)
3. Jordan Wilkins, MISS (6.52) (365 yards, 56 att)
4. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
5. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
6. Ish Witter, MIZ (5.88) (241 yards, 41 att)
7. Damarea Crockett, MIZ (5.00) (260 yards, 52 att)
8. Ralph Webb, VAN (4.98) (259 yards, 52 att)
9. Ty'Son Williams, USC (4.96) (233 yards, 47 att)
10. Bo Scarbrough, BAMA (4.90) (235 yards, 48 att)
11. John Kelly, TEN (4.86) (306 yards, 63 att)
12. Kerryon Johnson, AUB (4.85) (587 yards, 121 att)
13. Lamical Perine, FLA (4.71) (264 yards, 56 att)
14. Keith Ford, A&M (4.63) (213 yards, 46 att)
15. Aeris Williams, MSU (4.20) (290 yards, 69 att)
16. Darrel Williams, LSU (4.11) (185 yards, 45 att)
17. Benny Snell Jr, UK (4.05) (296 yards, 73 att)
18. Trayveon Williams, A&M (3.17) (184 yards, 58 att)
1. Damien Harris, BAMA (9.80) (539 yards, 55 att)
2. Malik Davis, FLA (6.73) (498 yards, 74 att)
3. Jordan Wilkins, MISS (6.52) (365 yards, 56 att)
4. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
5. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
6. Ish Witter, MIZ (5.88) (241 yards, 41 att)
7. Damarea Crockett, MIZ (5.00) (260 yards, 52 att)
8. Ralph Webb, VAN (4.98) (259 yards, 52 att)
9. Ty'Son Williams, USC (4.96) (233 yards, 47 att)
10. Bo Scarbrough, BAMA (4.90) (235 yards, 48 att)
11. John Kelly, TEN (4.86) (306 yards, 63 att)
12. Kerryon Johnson, AUB (4.85) (587 yards, 121 att)
13. Lamical Perine, FLA (4.71) (264 yards, 56 att)
14. Keith Ford, A&M (4.63) (213 yards, 46 att)
15. Aeris Williams, MSU (4.20) (290 yards, 69 att)
16. Darrel Williams, LSU (4.11) (185 yards, 45 att)
17. Benny Snell Jr, UK (4.05) (296 yards, 73 att)
18. Trayveon Williams, A&M (3.17) (184 yards, 58 att)
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:19 pm to jvilletiger25
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Kam Martin is averaging 8.0 ypc in 33 att
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Leaders in SEC Play
19 attempts, 128 yards, 6.74 YPC in SEC Play
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:22 pm to NYCAuburn
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then why mention this
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he has carried the ball more than anyone else.
Because the original post I responded to said "...and he is the leading rusher despite missing two games."
So I was pointing out that despite missing two games, he had more volume than anyone else. I also said he deserved to be on the list, along with Harris. Calm your tits.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
kirk maybe as a return specialist, but hasnt done anything to warrant being 1st team WR. lazy voting as usual.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They just wanted to stick 3 actual CBs on there so they labeled him a NB.
I get that, but there is still no way Tolliver should make the list. He didn't even start at the beginning of the year. Lost his spot to Greedy Williams who is a red shirt freshman.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:53 pm to lsupride87
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Harris has almost equaled Johnsons yardages output with less than half the carries
yet who has more yards and TDs. When the end of the year awards come, what are the primary two stats listed for RBs? Do they have any awards based on YPC? Again, in 2010, do you consider Ontereo McCalleb the best RB or Corey Grant in '13 or Eddie LAcy in '11 or Demps in '09 or Harvin in '08? because based on your reply, the answer is yes...
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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To be fair to Kelly, he's a really fvckin good running back playing in a total dog shite offense without a QB and a terrible OL.
Sounds a lot like Fournette and Guice. Our OL and and QB are probably better than whatever TN is putting out there, but then again, so is Guice (and so was Fournette).
I only say that to say that it sucks when a clearly awesome player is hindered by the supporting cast.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:57 pm to NYCAuburn
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yet who has more yards
Johnson has 58 more yards on 66 more carries. Ol Damien would have to bust his arse for a huge 0.72YPC on his next 66 carries to equal Johnson.........
quote:Harris scores .127 TDs per touch in the SEC
and TDs
Johnson scores .116 tds per touch in the SEC.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Marco is a freshman...kid is an absolute stud Db. No one talks about him because he just locks down, isnt a big risk taker on interceptions. Kid reminds me a ton of Peterson actually.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:59 pm to NYCAuburn
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Again, in 2010, do you consider Ontereo McCalleb the best RB or Corey Grant in '13 or Eddie LAcy in '11 or Demps in '09 or Harvin in '08?
Harris is 3rd in the league in rush yards, 26 yards behind #1
McCalleb finished 12th in rush yards, 663 yards behind #1
Grant finished 16th in rush yards, 1,169 yards behind #1
Lacy finished 11th in rush yards, 1,005 yards behind #1
So, not exactly the same thing. Those guys were backups or specialists. Harris is just the #1 in a group of 3-4 guys on a team that has been winning most of their games by 30 points at halftime, and his total yards are still very similar to the top 2 backs.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:01 pm to DawgsLife
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Are you saying it is a factor or not? Because you can decide if you want to promote Herschel over Bo or Chubb over Johnson.
I am saying Yards per game and total yards/TD's on the season matter. Yards per game merely for comparing backs who played different amount of games, like HW's 11 games a season vs Henry's '15
I have no problem in saying HW was better than Bo in production. Bo's mystique comes from a few other aspects. Having the added carries doesnt equate into added yards though. the vast majority of times, when adding carries, YPC dramatically goes down
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Auburn has played more conference games than Georgia (And most SEC teams)
AU and UA have played one more game than the rest of the conference. Chubb is right about 100ypg in conference, Harris 108, KJ 117.
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And I think his point was that missing two games has not hurt Johnson's chances at production
Missing two games has absolutely hurt his production, it hasnt hurt his stature in relation to the rest of the conference though
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:07 pm to lsupride87
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Ol Damien would have to bust his arse for a huge 0.72YPC on his next 66 carries to equal Johnson.........
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and TDs
Harris scores .127 TDs per touch in the SEC
Johnson scores .116 tds per touch in the SEC.
Great but again who actually leads the over stats, the guy with better per carry stats or the guy who actually leads in stats.
Would you consider a guy who played a great few games and no others vs one who finishes the season a leader in the stats as the better back in the year?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 2:07 pm to NYCAuburn
Damien Harris is the best RB in the SEC right now. I don't know how you can discount his YPC. It's insane.
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