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re: CFB Film Room : Midseason All-SEC Team
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
To be fair to Kelly, he's a really fvckin good running back playing in a total dog shite offense without a QB and a terrible OL. He runs harder and meaner than anybody I've seen this season. He just happens to usually get hit within half a second.
If he was at Alabama he'd 100% be in our rotation.
If he was at Alabama he'd 100% be in our rotation.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 12:42 pm
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
No SEC leading rusher or second leading rusher (Johnson, Guice)
No SEC leading tackler (White)
Fail
No SEC leading tackler (White)
Fail
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I hate this line of thinking though. You are fricking over the best producing running back in the SEC because his team is good.....
To be fair to Kelly, he's a really fvckin good running back playing in a total dog shite offense without a QB and a terrible OL.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:42 pm to GetmorewithLes
I'll present their argument for Kelly
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John Kelly, Tennessee
No player stands out above his counterparts quite like John Kelly, who leds the SEC with an incredible 47 missed tackles (39 on rush attempts, eight on receptions). Kelly is also the only SEC running back picking up over 50 percent of this rushing yards after contact (53.3 percent).
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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To be fair to Kelly, he's a really fvckin good running back playing in a total dog shite offense without a QB and a terrible OL.
He's also a little small, and can't pass a drug test.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:44 pm to lsupride87
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I hate this line of thinking though. You are fricking over the best producing running back in the SEC because his team is good.....
I think Harris is getting the shaft and will continue to based on the fact that (a) he only averages about 12 carries a game and (b) the "oh anybody can do that" narrative.
However, I still think Kelly is a stud. Doesn't mean he should be ahead of Harris/Guice/whoever, but he's a really good player.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:45 pm to lsupride87
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Honestly how in the blue frick is Kerryon Johnson not on there for running back?
Agreed. How is the nation's leading rushing touchdown scorer and top SEC rusher not on the list?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:46 pm to lsupride87
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No Damien Harris and No devin White makes the whole list worthless
Yeah. Devin White had an off game against OM. Yet he still has 14 more tackles than the next sec best.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:47 pm to deeprig9
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He's also a little small, and can't pass a drug test.
How are either relevant?
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:47 pm to lsupride87
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I am inserting a gump
Harris leads Kelly and Chubb in total yards, YPC, and touchdowns.
It is goshdern a hoot not having Harris on there
using just conference games who should be on there based on these stats
587 yards 13 tds
539 yards 7 tds
308 yards 1 td
398 yards 4 tds
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:50 pm to NYCAuburn
Even more incredible re: Damien Harris, the games against non-P5 teams actually HURT his YPC average.
Harris vs P5 teams
6 games
64 attempts, 612 yards
9.56 YPC
8 TD's
9.56 YPC!!!!!!!!!!!
Harris vs P5 teams
6 games
64 attempts, 612 yards
9.56 YPC
8 TD's
9.56 YPC!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah and KJ didnt even play two games and he is still the leading rusher. I understand their thought process on the methodology but it they need to step back and take a look at it
Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:57 pm to NYCAuburn
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Yeah and KJ didnt even play two games and he is still the leading rusher.
Let's get this out of the way - the two RBs on this list should be Harris and Johnson.
However, KJ may have missed two games but he already leads in rushing attempts.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:01 pm to ATLdawg25
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leads in rushing attempts.
Attempts dont matter. HW averaged 30+ a game for three years and 35 during his top season, but that is never discussed as a detractor
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:03 pm to NYCAuburn
What does that have to do with anything? My point was that him missing two games hasn't hurt his overall production vs other SEC RBs this year since he has carried the ball more than anyone else.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:04 pm to ATLdawg25
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What does that have to do with anything?
then why mention this
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he has carried the ball more than anyone else.
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:04 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:Can a brother not get some YPC?
587 yards 13 tds
539 yards 7 tds
308 yards 1 td
398 yards 4 tds
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Armani Watts >>>> JR Reed
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:09 pm to lsupride87
Leaders in SEC Play - YPC (min 20 carries)
1. Damien Harris, BAMA (9.80) (539 yards, 55 att)
2. D'Andre Swift, UGA (9.24) (231 yards, 25 att)
3. Sony Michel, UGA (8.51) (332 yards, 39 att)
4. Elijay Holyfield, UGA (7.50) (150 yards, 20 att)
5. Josh Jacobs, BAMA (7.17) (165 yards, 23 att)
6. Najee Harris, BAMA (6.76) (196 yards, 29 att)
7. Malik Davis, FLA (6.73) (498 yards, 74 att)
8. Jordan Wilkins, MISS (6.52) (365 yards, 56 att)
9. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
10. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
Others
16. Damarea Crockett, MIZ (5.00) (260 yards, 52 att)
17. Ralph Webb, VAN (4.98) (259 yards, 52 att)
18. Ty'Son Williams, USC (4.96) (233 yards, 47 att)
20. Bo Scarbrough, BAMA (4.90) (235 yards, 48 att)
21. John Kelly, TEN (4.86) (306 yards, 63 att)
22. Kerryon Johnson, AUB (4.85) (587 yards, 121 att)
25. Keith Ford, A&M (4.63) (213 yards, 46 att)
27. Aeris Williams, MSU (4.20) (290 yards, 69 att)
28. Darrel Williams, LSU (4.11) (185 yards, 45 att)
29. Benny Snell Jr, UK (4.05) (296 yards, 73 att)
30. Malik Miller, AUB (4.00) (100 yards, 25 att)
35. Trayveon Williams, A&M (3.17) (184 yards, 58 att)
1. Damien Harris, BAMA (9.80) (539 yards, 55 att)
2. D'Andre Swift, UGA (9.24) (231 yards, 25 att)
3. Sony Michel, UGA (8.51) (332 yards, 39 att)
4. Elijay Holyfield, UGA (7.50) (150 yards, 20 att)
5. Josh Jacobs, BAMA (7.17) (165 yards, 23 att)
6. Najee Harris, BAMA (6.76) (196 yards, 29 att)
7. Malik Davis, FLA (6.73) (498 yards, 74 att)
8. Jordan Wilkins, MISS (6.52) (365 yards, 56 att)
9. Derrius Guice, LSU (6.39) (473 yards, 74 att)
10. Nick Chubb, UGA (6.32) (398 yards, 63 att)
Others
16. Damarea Crockett, MIZ (5.00) (260 yards, 52 att)
17. Ralph Webb, VAN (4.98) (259 yards, 52 att)
18. Ty'Son Williams, USC (4.96) (233 yards, 47 att)
20. Bo Scarbrough, BAMA (4.90) (235 yards, 48 att)
21. John Kelly, TEN (4.86) (306 yards, 63 att)
22. Kerryon Johnson, AUB (4.85) (587 yards, 121 att)
25. Keith Ford, A&M (4.63) (213 yards, 46 att)
27. Aeris Williams, MSU (4.20) (290 yards, 69 att)
28. Darrel Williams, LSU (4.11) (185 yards, 45 att)
29. Benny Snell Jr, UK (4.05) (296 yards, 73 att)
30. Malik Miller, AUB (4.00) (100 yards, 25 att)
35. Trayveon Williams, A&M (3.17) (184 yards, 58 att)
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/25/17 at 1:09 pm to lsupride87
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Can a brother not get some YPC?
Quick question, Would have considered Ontereo McCalleb the best running back of 2010 in the SEC ?
YPC is a great stat, but lets get real here Total yards and TDs are what matters when it comes to RBs, sometimes yards a game.
Having multiple backs share workload can distort yards per carry, heavily.
at this point, we[sec] really have had a shitty mid season of games so far, so a lot is yet to be determined
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