re: Case for a National Seed: Auburn vs LSU

If it comes down to it, LSU would get in over Auburn. You’ve been told this repeatedly in this thread yet continue to argue

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If it comes down to it, LSU would get in over Auburn. You’ve been told this repeatedly in this thread yet continue to argue

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I was doing a deep dive, posting in the rant (I stopped about halfway through )

If you go to wikipedia, you can see college baseball polls by year. That search will give you the major polls of the time; so for example D1 wasn't around back in the late 90's. But Collegiate Baseball and the Coach's Poll were, and the more recent you look, the more are listed.
They will list each poll, scrollable, so you can see preseason through final poll (national champion). *The early ones don't all do that, but enough do once you get to around 2006 and later.
Pro tip on scrolling- the last poll is the champion. The second to last is, I believe, after the conference tourney. You want the 3rd last, which would be the final regular season poll.

I had that up, and in a separate tab, I had wikipedia college baseball national champion by year. It lists:
the national seeds
the brackets (shows results)
and the champion.

I did about a dozen or so, noting who was #1 in the final poll, what their national seed was, and who won that year. The lowest seed a #1 ranked team got, I think was 5th or 7th... and that was a year with different teams atop different polls. For unanimous #1's, probably close to 2 thirds were the #1 seed.
Not one was NOT a national seed.

You are more than welcome to check it out.

Here are the rankings, you can go year by year.
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Here are the playoff pages, where you can see seeding, bracket, and who won.
LINK

Those are both 2013, I did them from 1999 through that year (1999 was the start of the Super Regional era).

OP, I suspect you're trolling LSU, with a little concern overall Auburn won't get a seed. I'd say, don't focus on LSU. Focus on someone else like Oregon, etc. History is pretty clear on it, the #1 ranked team at the end of the regular season will get a national seed.

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Do any LSU fans bother to actually read what the argument is about?

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Yeah, I did. OP posted some stuff, listing RPI and other numbers, and also referred to Auburn taking the series in a sweep at home. Questioned basically how you could have LSU as a national seed, and not have Auburn.

People have also brought up that LSU got to play Mizzou (basically a free 3 wins), and Auburn didn't. Talked about Auburn's strength of schedule vs LSU's.

That's all well and good.

There are several things the OP needs to take into account. He dismissed the difference in overall record and conference record, which does come into play.
Then there's what I just posted- which is looking at how often the #1 ranked team at the end of the regular season is a national seed. I looked that over, and from what I'm seeing- it's 100%. Maybe not #1 overall seed, but they are national seeds. This is relevant because LSU is the unanimous #1 ranked team. People say that doesn't matter, but it would be the first time one wouldn't be a national seed, if you drop LSU.

The big issue is that we all fear there will be a hesitance to give the SEC 6 national seeds, and Auburn appears the first one out. As I stated, OP's gripe is not with LSU, it's with the committee putting a non-SEC team ahead of Auburn. LSU's spot appears to be secure.

OP originally said "make the case for how LSU deserves to be a national seed, ahead of Auburn". Plenty of people made the case, listing multiple things. OP dismissed them. At that point it became clear it's a melt. Doesn't want to hear why LSU would be ahead of them, simply wants to contest that and complain.

You’ve never even received a single sacrament. Hush.

Why did OP bring this up?

Hint: has nothing to do with Oregon getting a top 8 seed

Oregon shouldn’t get a top 8 seed. Their gripe should be with Oregon or Oregon St getting a national seed, not us.

Again, this thread had nothing to do with teams not in the SEC…..

The only ones melting in this thread are LSU fans that can’t read, or didn’t bother to read, what this thread is about. It’s not an outrageous argument and it’s shared by at least 1 major baseball outlet who has LSU as the 7th national seed and Auburn at 6th.

Believe me, Auburn is my most hated SEC school, but the argument is solid

Yep 3-0 against LSU and the argument is preposterous, but win that meaningless tournament game, and it is ok

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Do any LSU fans bother to actually read what the argument is about?

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Yes, the thread title is “Case for a National Seed: Auburn vs LSU

Indicating that it is Auburn AGAINST LSU. That’s what “vs” means. But OP is throwing out a couple of bones and is trying to come off as being objective while simultaneously disregarding anything that paints LSU in a positive light in comparison to Auburn.

The answer is simple, the SEC is going to get 5 top 8 seeds without a doubt (LSU will be one of them for the PLETHORA of reasons laid out in this thread that OP and you want to ignore). IF they decide to give the SEC a 6th, it will be Auburn, and rightfully so. If they don’t want to give that many to the SEC, sorry, but Aubbie is going to be left holding their dicks in their hands. Which is why everyone else has said the beef needs to be with Oregon and Oregon St.