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re: Case for a National Seed: Auburn vs LSU
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:19 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:19 pm to AUTiger789
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No shite. That’s the whole point of the thread. Both are deserving of being Top 8. But it’s going to boil down to whether the committee will allow 6 teams from one league to all get national seeds.
If they decide no, one is on the chopping block.
That one would be Auburn.
Has there ever been a consensus #1 ranked team not selected as a top 8 seed?
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:29 pm to AUTiger789
By your logic why is Arkansas a lock but LSU isn’t? After all we won the series against them and they only have a 1 game lead in the conference standings over us. They had 20 wins we have 19. We clear yall by two SEC victories. So your logic doesn’t sound right if Auburn is more deserving than LSU of a national seed than LSU is more deserving than Arkansas for a national seed.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:31 pm to lsudave1
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Well if you're argument is scheduling advantages then maybe your argument should be directed at Texas, who was gifted the easiest schedule of them all.
The facts show otherwise.
Current SOS:
1. Auburn
2. Vanderbilt
3. Florida
4. Texas Tech
5. Georgia
6. Missouri
7. Stanford
8. Miami
9. Kentucky
10. Ole Miss
11. Texas A&M
12. Oklahoma State
13. Arkansas
14. South Carolina
15. TEXAS
16. Alabama
17. Oklahoma
18. Clemson
19. Tennessee
20. TCU
21. Pittsburgh
22. Louisville
23. UCLA
24. Mississippi State
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32.
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34. LSU
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:47 pm to LSUtigerNVegas
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By your logic why is Arkansas a lock but LSU isn’t?
How about RPI? ELO? SOS? Record vs common opponents? Quad 1 wins?
Go look all that up and report back. You’ll also see why Arky is rightfully rated ahead of you.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:51 pm to AUTiger789
I don’t understand why you are so anal about this. It is not a big deal. Seriously. Both LSU and Auburn should rightfully get top 8 seeds and hopefully host super regionals. I don’t give a shite if Auburn is ahead of us or not as long as we’re top 8 because honestly it won’t affect either of us until we get to Omaha. Our resumes are so similar that we wouldn’t be matched up with each other anyway until then.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:04 pm to AUTiger789
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It’s splitting hairs at some point, but Texas is clearly #1. Vandy is IMO a clear #2. After that I think Arkansas and Georgia appear to be slightly ahead of Auburn and LSU.
I don't think anything past Texas at #1 is completely clear unless you're married to an algorithm
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:19 pm to AUTiger789
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Let’s hope sanity prevails with the committee as well.
Oh man. The committee has one job, get the powerhouse, big brand names to Omaha while giving the appearance of being fair and objective.
This wont even be close, LSU has a better conference record which is more than enough nail for them to hang their hat on.
AU isnt a big brand in baseball.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:21 pm to AUTiger789
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How about RPI? ELO? SOS? Record vs common opponents? Quad 1 wins?
LSU is 8th in RPI, 4th in ELO, and just went 19-11 in the SEC. Why shouldn't they be a top 8 seed?
Here's some better questions you should be asking. Why should Oregon St be a top 8 seed? Or Oregon? Or FSU? Or UNC? or Clemson? These are the schools who you should be concerned about.
Oregon St has the 39th SOS and aren't even in a conference. They lost a series to Nebraska and lost 4 straight to Oregon. Their best series win is UC Irvine. They have no other series wins against RPI top 40 teams. Their SOS is basically manufactured by playing in 3 Feb-March round robin tournaments against P5 teams. I get why they had to do that but they're smoke and mirrors
Oregon plays in the Big 10. The Big 10 is a joke. They've only played 7 Q1 games total (4 of them against Oregon St) and 16 Q1/Q2 games. Most of their schedule is against shitty teams. They basically have the resume of a good mid major team.
UNC has only played 13 Q1 games. The ACC is down big time this year. Their only big series win was against FSU last weekend. Their nest toughest series was against #29 Louisville and they lost that series. They played a bunch of teams with an RPI sitting in the 30s-40s. No real top tier teams on their schedule. They didn't p[lay Clemson this year either in the ACC
FSU lost to almost all the good teams they played. They lost 2/3 to UNC, 2/3 to Louisville, 2/3 Wake, 2/3 Florida. The only feather in the hat they have is taking 2/3 from Clemson.
Clemson has ended the season horribly. They were swept by NC State, lost 2/3 to FSU, dropped a midweek game to Coastal, and lost 2/3 to Duke...then saved their pride by sweeping Pitt the last weekend of the year.
LSU, and Auburn, have better resumes than all of these teams, so why are you singling out LSU? If you want to take issue with the committee, take issue with them if they don't give the SEC 6 national top 8 seeds becuase that's what should happen.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:33 pm to AUTiger789
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Let’s hope sanity prevails with the committee as well.
Think about it like a heavyweight fight..
If the cards are close, the champ is going to always going to win the fight. In order to beat the champ, it has to be convincing..
In this scenario between LSU and Auburn..
Both resumes are similar. Advantage LSU.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:34 pm to AUTiger789
OP - your arguments are completely based on SOS/RPI. But that is not the only considerations. If they were, you would be correct. You can continue to call everyone else wrong, but ELO and the media polls all have LSU ranked ahead of Auburn.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:36 pm to lsufball19
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should Oregon St be a top 8 seed? Or Oregon? Or FSU? Or UNC? or Clemson? These are the schools who you should be concerned about. Oregon St has the 39th SOS and aren't even in a conference. They lost a series to Nebraska and lost 4 straight to Oregon. Their best series win is UC Irvine. They have no other series wins against RPI top 40 teams. Their SOS is basically manufactured by playing in 3 Feb-March round robin tournaments against P5 teams. I get why they had to do that but they're smoke and mirrors Oregon plays in the Big 10. The Big 10 is a joke. They've only played 7 Q1 games total (4 of them against Oregon St) and 16 Q1/Q2 games. Most of their schedule is against shitty teams. They basically have the resume of a good mid major team.
For some really weird reason… the Auburn posters are totally fixated on LSU, and LSU alone.
8 teams get the top seeds. 12 are on contention. But… let’s just single out LSU.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:43 pm to lsufball19
It is what it is. Auburn fans might have a gripe, but it will be with the committee, not LSU.
LSU is currently #1 in every baseball poll. They've been in the top 10 all year long, I don't believe they ever dipped out of a national host spot. They've been consistently there all year.
Texas rocketed up the standings, and built enough margin to where they could afford to slide at the end.
Arkansas was there most of the year, has slid some, but their sweep of Texas late solidified their claim.
You may see Texas and Arkansas seeded ahead of LSU, that's fine; they all earned a Super host if they advance.
Auburn had built themselves a good resume (including the early sweep of LSU), but that final weekend series against Ole Miss could be crucial. If they don't host, it's because they dropped that series, imho. That left the door open.
LSU is currently #1 in every baseball poll. They've been in the top 10 all year long, I don't believe they ever dipped out of a national host spot. They've been consistently there all year.
Texas rocketed up the standings, and built enough margin to where they could afford to slide at the end.
Arkansas was there most of the year, has slid some, but their sweep of Texas late solidified their claim.
You may see Texas and Arkansas seeded ahead of LSU, that's fine; they all earned a Super host if they advance.
Auburn had built themselves a good resume (including the early sweep of LSU), but that final weekend series against Ole Miss could be crucial. If they don't host, it's because they dropped that series, imho. That left the door open.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:48 pm to AUTiger789
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can you name me one data point that shows LSU having a better resume than Auburn?
We won more SEC games
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:02 pm to AUTiger789
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:03 pm to AUTiger789
Conclusion is that we going to get a seed the end of y'all
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:07 pm to lsufball19
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LSU is 8th in RPI, 4th in ELO, and just went 19-11 in the SEC.
The context of this was in comparison to Arkansas. So how does Arkansas compare?
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Why shouldn't they be a top 8 seed?
I said multiple times they should be.
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LSU, and Auburn, have better resumes than all of these teams, so why are you singling out LSU?
I know you’re from Louisiana, but can you read?
I said both should be national seeds. But the committee has never awarded one conference 6 or more national seeds, and there is a lot of speculation that they won’t do it this year.
The entire point of this entire thread is that both are deserving, but if the committee decides to only allow 5 SEC teams, who gets left out.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:18 pm to AUTiger789
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But the committee has never awarded one conference 6 or more national seeds, and there is a lot of speculation that they won’t do it this year.
They’ve also never seeded a 16-team SEC before this year. I think both are safe.
Doesn’t really matter all that much, everything’s gonna go haywire once the games start. State has hosted multiple supers after going on the road for regionals.
Hotter/looser team tends to trump home field advantage, IMO.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:44 pm to Jebadeb
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the media polls all have LSU ranked ahead of Auburn.
LOL. You think the committee gives a shite about media polls?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:49 pm to JonTheTigerFan
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LSU finished 19-11 Auburn finished 17-13
So why’s LSU ahead of Texas if that’s the sole metric?
I’m not arguing Texas should be ahead but the guys definitely made a very strong case for why Auburn should be ahead of LSU.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:56 pm to AUTiger789
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AUTiger789
Bro, you need to calm down
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