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re: Can we agree to agree on Bama's success now?

Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:13 pm to
I would like to apologize to the Bama friends that i have when i say... frick Bama
Posted by GooseSix
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:15 pm to
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Bama has a great coach and great recruiting, but the refs and schedule still help. Ignoring it is simply being a homer.


This is why this country is going to shite...
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:16 pm to
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Good God


They need your approval.
Posted by RT58
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:24 pm to
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re: Can we agree to agree on Bama's success now? (Posted on 2/6/13 at 6:49 p.m. to TenTex)
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Luck and timing is everything.


Bama has also had very favorable schedules the past few years.

Ignoring this is denying the truth.

We ALL have cupcakes on our schedule. No SEC coach has control over it. No other team has faced 5-6 straight teams coming off a by week. That said, our schedule has nothing to do with Saban,or Smart,or any of our coaches going into a recruits living room and telling him he has a shot to make the NFL if he comes to Bama and gives it everything. If you don't coachem up,it does not matter if they are 5* or 2*
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30290 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:27 pm to
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we just got really lucky because this could easily be LSU working on their 4th national championship.


Actually, LSU would be working on it's 6th since 2004, it would literally be LSU Baseball under Bertman winning the CWS almost yearly in the 1990s all over again. Not hyperbole.

As even minus Saban's two years in Miami, LSU won in 2004 and 2008, finished second to Tide for Trent Richardson's services, Mark Ingram was gonna go wherever Saban and Bobby Williams were. LSU with Saban narily missed on Adrian Peterson, Vince Young,etc.. LSU under Saban was even getting kids from Bama and Aubie strongholds. Was and still is a national recruiter than can land kids from every corner. Quite a few Bama recruits from out of state, that he landed to help win titles for Ala in 2010, 2012, 2013, coulda/woulda been LSU Tigers if CNS were at LSU.

Saban went NFL right when it was all about to snowball for him and LSU to degrees even greater than it was already for them..which like now at Bama was a Top 1-2-3 class yearly.

I said it when he left, and was about to return to college, that LSU could've easily surpassed the Cane Dynasty run if he were at LSU, and/or returned to BR after Dolphins/Huizenga.

Was of the faction on the TD Sabanista posters, and amongst friends, and LSU booster clubs/events, that said getting him back, though would be rude to Miles, and historically unprecedented in bad taste, needed doing to be that dynasty, and every bit as much to also cockblock him from doing so at Bama, to LSU's expense.

Yet, heard from quite a few LSU fans that mocked CNS initial 7-6 team that lost to NLU, as LSU and Chad Jones punchout escape job in TTown, saying it's no big deal, or we have the better HC, yadayadayada..and I replied to just wait and watch what's forthcoming.

God's honest truth.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 7:43 pm
Posted by tigerfan4120
Member since Dec 2003
3262 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:28 pm to
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No SEC coach has control over it


But the Bama alum that oversees bridge scheduling does

Bama gets preferential treatment, I don't see why ya'll don't embrace it here on the SECR. I would be lapping that shite up. One of my best friends went to Bama and he throws it in my face all the time. I'd be doing the same if the SEC office were here in NOLA and LSU alums were entrenched in important positions in the SEC office.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 7:29 pm
Posted by deaux68
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:38 pm to
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Bama gets preferential treatment


2010 called
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:53 pm to
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The SEC office location has a lot to do with it.

The SEC referees have plenty to do with it.

fify
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 7:54 pm
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:56 pm to
I will agree the scheduling has been imbalanced, but if we had the refs in our pockets, then the A&M game would not have ended the way it did and every judgement call in the SECCG wouldn't have gone against us.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 7:57 pm to
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Bama has a great coach and great recruiting, but the refs and schedule still help. Ignoring it is simply being a homer.


Agreed. There is no denying Bama is the best. There is no denying that Saban is the best. But things help when you schedule UK and UT. Or Mizzou and UT.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:01 pm to
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We ALL have cupcakes on our schedule.


Well no shite. We're not talking about non conference FCS schools. We're talking about your cross divisional SEC games. And we're talking about it happening twice in a row. That just so happens to be the years of bridge scheduling. It's not a conspiracy theory when you just look at it for what it is. It doesn't take anything away from Saban or Bama, but to not recognize it is asinine.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:13 pm to
Saying that Bama got off easy last year because they didn't play the best teams in the East is fricking stupid, when they beat the best team from the East when it mattered most.

Before that, they scheduled the dominant East team Florida for two straight years. Not Bama's fault Florida sucked dick shortly after their run to the top.
Posted by CowTownReb
Member since Jan 2013
353 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:18 pm to
Two things:


For me to say you don't have one of the greatest football coaches in history would be insane.

You do.

For you to say you don't get egregious help from the referees would be insane.

You do.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31884 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:23 pm to
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Actually, LSU would be working on it's 6th since 2004, it would literally be LSU Baseball under Bertman winning the CWS almost yearly in the 1990s all over again. Not hyperbole.

As even minus Saban's two years in Miami, LSU won in 2004 and 2008, finished second to Tide for Trent Richardson's services, Mark Ingram was gonna go wherever Saban and Bobby Williams were. LSU with Saban narily missed on Adrian Peterson, Vince Young,etc.. LSU under Saban was even getting kids from Bama and Aubie strongholds. Was and still is a national recruiter than can land kids from every corner. Quite a few Bama recruits from out of state, that he landed to help win titles for Ala in 2010, 2012, 2013, coulda/woulda been LSU Tigers if CNS were at LSU.

Saban went NFL right when it was all about to snowball for him and LSU to degrees even greater than it was already for them..which like now at Bama was a Top 1-2-3 class yearly.

I said it when he left, and was about to return to college, that LSU could've easily surpassed the Cane Dynasty run if he were at LSU, and/or returned to BR after Dolphins/Huizenga.

Was of the faction on the TD Sabanista posters, and amongst friends, and LSU booster clubs/events, that said getting him back, though would be rude to Miles, and historically unprecedented in bad taste, needed doing to be that dynasty, and every bit as much to also cockblock him from doing so at Bama, to LSU's expense.

Yet, heard from quite a few LSU fans that mocked CNS initial 7-6 team that lost to NLU, as LSU and Chad Jones punchout escape job in TTown, saying it's no big deal, or we have the better HC, yadayadayada..and I replied to just wait and watch what's forthcoming.

God's honest truth.



Dear God man. The dude only lost <3 games once at LSU. Once. He got lucky to have the West at a level that will never be seen again in 2001. He started Marcus Randall over the future number 1 draft pick and also the Green Bay Franchise record for TD passes and yards in a single game. Once again Marcus. Randall.

He is a much better coach now. However he once again got an unprecedented set of circumstances in 2011 to get in the NC game. Then he gets an easy schedule. Combination of lucky and good.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:28 pm to
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HailToTheChiz


time for a name change request bro.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12307 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:46 pm to
No. And frick you.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48949 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:48 pm to
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SECSolomonGrundy


nah bro....just think of it as his memorial...im just glad to be back
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30290 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:53 pm to
Dear God man, he won a national title in just four years at a lukewarm at best then LSU, left a Lambo for Miles to get started circa 2005-2007. Yes, he is better now than then(most extremely smart men like CNS tend to do so)..

CNS is part reason as to why the SECW has become the hot thing it currently is, starting when at LSU, and elevating the demand for such hires/funding of recent by all schools, since at Bama.

CNS clout is why Bama starts at the top of the polls, his team's MO, his coaching style, and their level of play, is why once they lose a game, they are generally the first-in-line of the once-beatens in the BCSCG race.

You say combination of lucky and good. And while Bama was extremely lucky to have things shake out in the last two years by OSU chokejob at Ames, K St run out of gas, or Oregon blow to Stanford. I'd say they've been far more great and good than lucky..they've lived by the adage of creating their own luck..and pouncing when given the chance.

P.S. That bad 2002 8-5 season was when Mauck got hurt at Fla, LSU was playing nearly as well as anyone at the time, later suffering more injuries and fatigue, hit wall late in season, knew they'd no-show next week off Bluegrass Miracle. Saban's last season, the players were gutshot on his leaving for Miami when vs Iowa and no holding call, thus has 3rd loss that day.

You paint a perennial 3-plus-loss type HC at LSU, when circumstances, roster rebuilding, and as if the loaded 2005-2007 already-in-place talent for marching forward wasn't locked and loaded. It doesn't take a genius to have seen the best was still to have come..even back then.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:54 pm to
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Both the '09 and '11 schedules were legit, with tough road games and a non-conference big boy.


I hope this was a joke. In 2011 Bama beat 3 teams with a winning record and only 2 ranked teams ( before bowl). Your 2011 schedule was a joke.
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