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re: Can one game change a program?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:36 pm to Aman
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:36 pm to Aman
Disagree. I remember that time well and most thought he would be back if he beat AU. Many even thought he would still be back and wanted to give him another year even after the AU loss.
Anyway, point still stands. If you think it was the MSU game that did him in, use that one.
Anyway, point still stands. If you think it was the MSU game that did him in, use that one.
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:38 pm to Bama Bird
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If Alabama had lost to Clemson in 2008, I'm not so sure we win a single NC in the last 5 years.
Come on son. That is ridiculous.
Last year's Egg Bowl was huge for OM.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:41 pm to NeverRains
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Can one game change a program?
No, but one motorcycle crash can.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:46 pm to NeverRains
As miserable as it was at the time, I believe the ULM loss for Bama was a huge point on the timeline for Saban's Bama.
When people make fun of Bama losing that game, I just smile because I think it was the bottom. Can only go up from there.
When people make fun of Bama losing that game, I just smile because I think it was the bottom. Can only go up from there.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:51 pm to PropJoe
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The blackout game
just curious how so? We have the same coach and have reached the SECCG the last two years which is in line with what we were doing before that game.
EDIT: unless you meant for Alabama then I take back everything I said
This post was edited on 4/15/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:55 pm to ugastudent
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EDIT: unless you meant for Alabama then I take back everything I said
He meant Alabama, that, along with the Clemson when really got people watching us, and sent us back to the top.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:03 pm to rtr14
The game that would've meant more for Shula than the 2006 Auburn game is the 2005 LSU game. If Bama wins that game, they probably ride the momentum and beat Auburn, and then would've played in the SEC Championship game. Regardless of result in the SECCG, Shula probably gets more time and Saban is coaching at Arkansas or FSU.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:13 pm to TeLeFaWx
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quote: Do you honestly believe that JFF would have won the Heisman with 3 losses? Tebow did, and Manziel is waaaaaay better than Tebow
everybody already knew you were an idiot, but you would have to be an idiot to believe this
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:16 pm to NeverRains
21-0
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:18 pm to narddogg81
When I first read your response I thought that you were talking about me, since you have my response in your quote.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:30 pm to rtr14
Miami wasn't the same after the 92 NC game and neither was Texas.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:37 pm to BIG DADDY 73
I really hope to god that the 2013 BCS Title Game sends Notre Dame back to another 20 years of wandering in the desert.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
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To be fair, before the 2010 IB, we had only lost 4 games in almost 3 years.
I dont really think that game changed anything for anyone really.
I dont think it would have had that much bearing on Dooley's success if UT would have beat LSU in 2010.
Yeah, but I just think with the circumstances of that game. I mean, Im not trying to flame, but Alabama was projected to win their second that year, and had already gone through the regular season with 2 losses. This was the last game of the season with their bitter rival. They came out hot, and then just let it slip away. I think a game like that can really motivate a team to make sure something like that never happens again. Idk though
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:13 pm to NeverRains
Sometimes probably yes - if you finally beat an opponent that had been dominating you or break through and win a NC for example.
More commonly no - an embarrassing or terrible loss or a great win will be pointed to as a game that catapulted a program upwards or downwards... but there are 12-14 games a year and what you do for the balance of a year obviously matters more than any single game outcome.
More commonly no - an embarrassing or terrible loss or a great win will be pointed to as a game that catapulted a program upwards or downwards... but there are 12-14 games a year and what you do for the balance of a year obviously matters more than any single game outcome.
This post was edited on 4/15/13 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:14 pm to NeverRains
Hobnailed boot game pointed the arrow up for Georgia and started to get the Donnan era out of our minds. That game gave Richt credibility and he started taking recruits from Atlanta area, which Fulmer recruited heavily in his prime years. That game was a huge swing for both programs.
No single game has ever killed a program like 2007 West Virginia losing to Pitt
No single game has ever killed a program like 2007 West Virginia losing to Pitt
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:18 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Disagree. I remember that time well and most thought he would be back if he beat AU. Many even thought he would still be back and wanted to give him another year even after the AU loss.
Anyway, point still stands. If you think it was the MSU game that did him in, use that one.
Since none of us are Mal Moore we really will never know.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:22 pm to NeverRains
Texas A&M v. Colorado in 1995.
But, you have to also consider that Charles Alan Wright (the longhorn professor and total jackass of a bitch) was on the NCAA investigation panel and later the appeals panel, so given the 1994 bullshite probation and no TV, it's hard to call that game the one that did it.
But, you have to also consider that Charles Alan Wright (the longhorn professor and total jackass of a bitch) was on the NCAA investigation panel and later the appeals panel, so given the 1994 bullshite probation and no TV, it's hard to call that game the one that did it.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:28 pm to NeverRains
2010 vs Bama and Florida (to seal the SEC East Championship)
2009 vs Ole Miss and Clemson
And 1984 loss to Navy. Who knows what could've happened had we not lost that game.
2009 vs Ole Miss and Clemson
And 1984 loss to Navy. Who knows what could've happened had we not lost that game.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:41 pm to NeverRains
Here are some examples of program defining games for A&M:
1984 - Win over TCU. Jackie Sherrill was having a 4-5 season in year 3. The win over ranked TCU that year, followed by the crushing of t.u. in Austin the following week brought the program to great heights until Sherrill resigned at the end of the 1988 season.
1990 - Holiday Bowl. 65-14 annihilation of #9 BYU and Heisman winner Ty Detmer. Set the stage for the 1991-1993 seasons.
2000 - Oklahoma game. Had Slocum won that game, it would have stopped all of Bob Stoops' momentum before it started.
2003 - Oklahoma game. Pretty much defined the Franchione era. However, this game wasn't the one that truly let us know that Fran would never succeed. That would belong to:
2005 - Iowa State game. Still the only loss to Iowa State in our history. Only time we ever allowed a 300 yard passer, 200 yard receiver, and 100 yard rusher in the same game. Cemented the end of the Wrecking Crew. Once that game happened, Franchione was never going to succeed. Were it not for the stupid contract extension that Byrne put in for him the previous season (for a 7-5 year and a 38-7 bowl loss after the first loss to Baylor in 20 years), that game would have meant the end of Franchione. We limped along for 4 more years because of that.
2011 Texas game - The classic example of a silver lining. Had Sherman won this game, he would have still been the coach, we would have still been a 2nd half failure of a team, we would have never hired Kevin Sumlin, AND JOHNNY MANZIEL WOULD BE A BACKUP QUARTERBACK
2012 Alabama game - No need to discuss this one further
1984 - Win over TCU. Jackie Sherrill was having a 4-5 season in year 3. The win over ranked TCU that year, followed by the crushing of t.u. in Austin the following week brought the program to great heights until Sherrill resigned at the end of the 1988 season.
1990 - Holiday Bowl. 65-14 annihilation of #9 BYU and Heisman winner Ty Detmer. Set the stage for the 1991-1993 seasons.
2000 - Oklahoma game. Had Slocum won that game, it would have stopped all of Bob Stoops' momentum before it started.
2003 - Oklahoma game. Pretty much defined the Franchione era. However, this game wasn't the one that truly let us know that Fran would never succeed. That would belong to:
2005 - Iowa State game. Still the only loss to Iowa State in our history. Only time we ever allowed a 300 yard passer, 200 yard receiver, and 100 yard rusher in the same game. Cemented the end of the Wrecking Crew. Once that game happened, Franchione was never going to succeed. Were it not for the stupid contract extension that Byrne put in for him the previous season (for a 7-5 year and a 38-7 bowl loss after the first loss to Baylor in 20 years), that game would have meant the end of Franchione. We limped along for 4 more years because of that.
2011 Texas game - The classic example of a silver lining. Had Sherman won this game, he would have still been the coach, we would have still been a 2nd half failure of a team, we would have never hired Kevin Sumlin, AND JOHNNY MANZIEL WOULD BE A BACKUP QUARTERBACK
2012 Alabama game - No need to discuss this one further
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