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re: Can A&M become the premier University in Texas?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:16 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:16 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Situations where the interviewer isn't talking about the spirit that can ne'er be told
What else would an interviewer discuss?
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:18 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Texas' MO has always been the easiest possible path to the title game. That's why they were desperate to keep A&M under their thumb and why they looked west as opposed to east when it came to the conference realignment game.
And they want Oklahoma in their conference. Oklahoma wants Oklahoma State in their conference. That is a trio.
In my opinion, conference expansion is done, and once the 4 team playoff gets here, people(mainly conference commishes once their team gets a snub) will clamor for an auto bid for their champs and an 8 team playoff. At that point, conference expansion is truly dead.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:19 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
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&M is a premier University with growing resources and large appeal. The WSJ recently named A&M tops in terms of ROI. This is actually what matters in the real world.
And GlaxoSmithKline is building its newest vaccine production facility in College Station, not Austin.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:22 pm to molsusports
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If Texas were to share their revenue in teh same way other schools are sharing theirs (make the LHN and SEC network deals compatible) then I'm sure the SEC would accept Texas
You don't understand--increasing the difficulty of competition has NEVER been Texas' MO. That attitude precedes the current AD and administration. For example, this isn't the first time they've elected not to play A&M in football because they felt A&M was out of line with regard to them. That hubris was the driving force behind them pursuing the LHN, and then pressing the issue (which led to A&M's eventual departure) even when they were already going to get their way with the network as it was. Even today, they're singing the praises of having a 10 team conference over a larger one, and that's because they have an easier path to the title game should they catch fire and run the table (again, easier to do in their conference as currently constructed as opposed to pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and jumpting to a tougher conference).
Texas exploring the SEC would show the world that not only did A&M call their bluff in going to the SEC over staying in the big12, but that they were dead wrong about their decision and have to eat all kinds of humble pie.
t.u. ain't bout that life
ETA: dammit y'all gonna have me posting like aggressor before this thread's all said and done
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:25 pm to molsusports
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If Texas were to share their revenue in teh same way other schools are sharing theirs (make the LHN and SEC network deals compatible) then I'm sure the SEC would accept Texas
That is what I'm thinking. Texas is just way too valuable of a program to not take in if they agreed to play by the SEC rules.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:31 pm to Bamatab
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So only half of the students at one institution that is arguing that it is the flagship institution met the requirement to get in automatically to another university that is perceived as the flagship institution. I'm not sure this is helping the argument for Aggy.
Over half the students would have been guaranteed admittance by law. I'd guess about 80% of A&M students got into UT or would have. Probably 80%-90% of UT kids would have or were accepted to A&M. Both are very hard to get in to for large publics.
A&M grads make more money as new grads and mid-career.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:32 pm to Bamatab
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That is what I'm thinking. Texas is just way too valuable of a program to not take in if they agreed to play by the SEC rules.
I'm not sure how the voting in the SEC works, but there are 3 schools that will never vote for Texas joining. It should be easy enough to figure out who those are. And honestly, those who would vote them in are just stupid. I can't see them seeking to join in any case, unless they completely clean house including the BoR - the SEC is way too competitive.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:36 pm to hawgfaninc
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hawgfaninc
You need to change your handle to "Softball Tosser." It's up there with a thread that asks if Arkansas natives can ever have a positive tooth-to-tatto ratio and have indoor plumbing.
You lobbed this one up there and all these butthurt trolls are swinging for the yard.
Well done.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:37 pm to Bamatab
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If Texas were to share their revenue in teh same way other schools are sharing theirs (make the LHN and SEC network deals compatible) then I'm sure the SEC would accept Texas
That is what I'm thinking. Texas is just way too valuable of a program to not take in if they agreed to play by the SEC rules.
Yeah, there's a special Texan arrogance to them but if they played by the same rules they would be an obvious financial boon. I understand the Aggie point of view that they wouldn't want to join because they don't want to join a conference with more major powers to compete against... but that's a different question from whether or not the SEC would consider them
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:42 pm to hawgfaninc
No.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:44 pm to aggressor
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Has Flagship Status
Is about equal academically
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:45 pm to hawgfaninc
No. Austin will always run the state over the long run.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:46 pm to molsusports
Why are people still pretending like there is any chance of Texas joining the SEC? It doesn't matter what the financial situation is. It doesn't matter if they divide the LHN profits up equally. Now that aTm is in the conference, Texas has no shot. The SEC isn't going to take another school in a state where they already have a footprint. How hard is this to understand?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 2:47 pm to thefloydian
A&M could become big brother in Texas but they have to win a couple of national championships first. They only have 1 legit title in their school history though they claimed two last years from around 80 years ago. Until this happens they are little brother in their own state.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:02 pm to thefloydian
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The SEC isn't going to take another school in a state where they already have a footprint. How hard is this to understand?
All the better to ruslte jimmies with, my dear
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:08 pm to thefloydian
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The SEC isn't going to take another school in a state where they already have a footprint. How hard is this to understand?
Adding Texas is totally different than adding any other second in the SEC footprint. FSU, GT, & Clemson (Clemson and USCe may be a toss up now)all fall behind in their respective states when it comes to athletic appeal within their states. Texas far surpasses all of the other schools in revenue, and their viewership power is probably only surpassed by Notre Dame.
UF, UGA, USCe, & UK can exert enough power within their states to get the upcoming SEC Network on the basic cable/satellite packages in all of the markets in those states. It's not a given that aTm can do the same with all of the markets in Texas. I have no doubt that they can deliver the Houston market. But can they exert enough power to get on the basic cable/satellite packages in the DFW, Austin, San Antonio, and the other Texas markets? I don't know if anyone can answer that right now. Also, I'm sure CBS & ESPN would pony up more money if we got Texas. I just don't see how the SEC could afford to turn them down.
Now with all of that said, I don't think that Texas wants anything to do with the competition in the SEC. Nor do they want to give the power they currently have over the Big 12, or the LHN (which they would absolutely have to give up to come into the SEC). So I don't think there is any risk of them coming. But if they did, the Aggie meltdown would be epic.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:10 pm to Bamatab
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Adding Texas is different than adding any other second in the SEC footprint
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I don't think that Texas wants anything to do with the competition in the SEC. Nor do they want to give the power they currently have over the Big 12, or the LHN
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:13 pm to Bamatab
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Texas far surpasses all of the other schools in revenue, and their viewership power is probably only surpassed by Notre Dame.
This isn't a zero sum game, though. Those same TV sets that'd be tuned into the horns are the ones that were tuned into A&M games this past fall. A&M as the state's SEC representative commands a lot more attention statewide than I think most realize. Adding texas would be classic cannibalization: subtraction by addition.
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I don't think that Texas wants anything to do with the competition in the SEC. Nor do they want to give the power they currently have over the Big 12, or the LHN (which they would absolutely have to give up to come into the SEC).
This really is the crux of the issue. All Texans are hubristic, but the horns take that to another level entirely, believe me. Lot of 180s would have to be done across the board with their ath. dept. and university's thinking in general to even consider that, and even then the answer would still be a resounding no from the SEC, IMO.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:16 pm to Monsters and Men
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So is it just their business school that has great networking or their entire university? I have a hard time believing the latter, but if you're just talking about McCombs I can buy that
I'm mainly talking about McCombs. Obviously A&M has a leg up in engineering but for the most part alumni networking is a more important factor for business jobs because...well... usually you have to be good at your job in engineering, not just know somebody.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:20 pm to hawgfaninc
if a&m can become the premier university in Texas it will be a huge victory for gay rights.
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