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re: By line- if Georgia had won by 1?

Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:46 am to
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:46 am to
UGA and Coach Smart took HUGE chances in the second half. UGA went 5 for 5 on 4th down and where any of those failed most likely Bama puts points on the board.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:10 am to
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Otherwise, the narrative if Bama had lost for DeBoer would have been he was outcoached by Kirby and maybe the stage was too big for him. We’ll never know.


You really need to work on your narrative. The last thing that happened Saturday night was that Coach DeBoer was outcoached. The national consensus is that Kirby got taken to school. Your lack of respect for the talent pool in Athens is appalling. The young BAMA freshmen players that are getting older, every game, just had a bad case of growing pains against elite talent. BAMA's defense also executed throughout the game in the most crucial of moments. Zabien Brown made a very difficult interception in the endzone and they were jumping Beck passes all game. That didn't just happen in a vacuum Snow White.

Here's how I can help you most with your short-sighted appreciation going forward. Respect elite talent in this conference and respect coaching. Georgia is a problem because they have both. Respect the team that just whipped elite talent and coaching because they too check both those boxes and then some.
Posted by Boomer65
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:03 am to
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Deboer pulled the same shite last year vs. Texas in the CFP. We played like shite and Penix and his WRs were on fire. We had no business throwing into the endzone to win it.


He almost gave it away though. You guys were literally 1 or 2 plays from winning the game and DeBoer had a piss poor clock management towards the end of the game - nearly gave it away. I think he’ll fix that soon with Saban hanging around though.
Posted by GTnerd
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:43 am to
I think the key to uga’s comeback was when they went for a 4th and 2 on their own 35 or so late in the 1st half, Bama had them stopped in the backfield but Deboar called a timeout right before the snap and then uga got a first down after the timeout and then went on to score. If not for that timeout Bama stops them and probably scores and the uga confidence and comeback likely never happens.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49748 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:57 am to
It's a valid question. Auburn has blown leads in football and they are the most frustrating because it takes someone to step up and show leadership to stop the bleed

The 17 year old did just that after muffing a KO return.
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:57 am to
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You really need to work on your narrative. The last thing that happened Saturday night was that Coach DeBoer was outcoached. The national consensus is that Kirby got taken to school.

I’ve not read any national press say Kirby got taken to school. In fact, I give Kirby credit for figuring out how to come back and almost beat Bama. In my mind, it was a tale of two different coaching philosophies. DeBoer’s philosophy won the day but almost lost the game.

We’ll see going forward if this was an anomaly or if DeBoers style leads to more of these type games. Kirby converting 5 of 5 I believe 4th downs is unheard of. My take is Bama stopped playing aggressive in 2nd half and was not coach up correctly to stop five fourth down plays which were game changing. I don’t know DeBoer and really don’t care about his success at the sisters of the poor schools early in his career. He blew the Natty last year in my opinion against Michigan by not running the ball consistently. He kept running Milroe left and right many times in 2 nd half after knowing Georgia had figured out how to stop his sweeps. Besides Georgia converting the 4th downs, we were unable until the end to convert and sustain drives. WHY? Because in your mind Kirby, a defensive genius taught by Saban was taken to the woodshed? Rediculous.

I do not want to play Georgia again. Their 2nd half tenacity and grit really showed the class team they are. We were very lucky to win that game.

Oh yea, you seem like a know it all sort. I bet I’ve watched more Bama football than you. Probably old enough to be your grandfather. So your attitude toward my post and have a great day RTR!
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:15 am to
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UGA went 5 for 5 on 4th down and where any of those failed most likely Bama puts points on the board.

I thought we were giving credit for playmakers making plays. Isn't that why y'all are so far up Williams' & Milroe's asses right now?

They both balled out, no question about it.

Why are some Tide folks having a hard time acknowledging that while Georgia ultimately came up short in the effort, y'all were scared you might witness an ultimate implosion of your team on the biggest stage of the year?
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:32 am to
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y'all were scared you might witness an ultimate implosion of your team on the biggest stage of the year?


WE were witnessing a giant implosion 2nd half. Hats off to Georgia. Sitting in my favorite chair with a cold one, I was screaming at the tv and wondering why our coaching staff are not making the necessary adjustments.

The crimson kool aid will flow but this old timer knows we were lucky as hell to win that game. Kudos Dogs
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:34 am to
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Why did Alabama’s staff not respond to Kirby?

Listen to his post-game interview, he addressed it well.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:53 am to
While the comeback effort by the Dawgs was commendable, I can't help but think that at least 1 of those TDs was due to exceptionally soft coverage by Bama understandably sitting on a comfortable lead, adjustments to bleed clock, not risk injuries, etc.

I get Beck/Bobo seeking to close the game out with the shot at the end zone that got intercepted, but I don't agree with making that high of a risk play when there was still plenty of time on the clock, 2 TOs, etc. If you make that play with 6 sec left on the clock, it's one thing.

Just like 2021's CFP title game, there's no such thing a a comfortable 1 score lead over Bama. Until Keelee Ringo came down with that interception, I was still expecting some manner of voodoo to work on Bama's behalf in Indy.
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:18 am to
Ok, settle down, barnoldtimer.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:23 am to
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Deboer pulled the same shite last year


Yea, it'd ain't gonna work every time for Kalen.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:33 am to
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Why are some Tide folks having a hard time acknowledging that while Georgia ultimately came up short in the effort, y'all were scared you might witness an ultimate implosion of your team on the biggest stage of the year?


I've heard BAMA and Georgia fans talking a lot about football these last 2 days and so have you. That's the ultimate respect on the rant. Why give the Jim's from Tuscaloosa or Daryl's from Georgia on the rant the show? Which you just did.

Everyone watching the game knew what they were watching. I'm happy we won and love our margin of error in the SEC going forward. Nobody is out of a 12-team playoff yet. That all said, it was a great game won by a BAMA team that always seems to figure out how to win these types of games.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:44 am to
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We’ll see going forward if this was an anomaly or if DeBoers style leads to more of these type games. Kirby converting 5 of 5 I believe 4th downs is unheard of. My take is Bama stopped playing aggressive in 2nd half


The fact that Georgia was looking at 5 4th downs is a compliment to the defense. We are super young in the backfield and I'm watching true freshmen replacing true freshmen. Georgia had a lot of those types of problems that we were exploiting as well. BAMA has looked bad a number of games in the biggest moments. 2016 BAMA had a 24-10 lead going into the 4th quarter vs Clemson for the natty and lost. Crap happens and odd you can't remember any of them.

This BAMA team did exactly what a Coach Saban team has done when faced with the same situation. Dig deep and figure out how to win it. Which is exactly what a Coach DeBoer BAMA team did Saturday.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:52 am to
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1990/09/22 Alabama 16 - Georgia 17


They're hoping that Kalen DeBoer's first year = Gene Stallings' first year
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:57 am to
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WE were witnessing a giant implosion 2nd half. Hats off to Georgia. Sitting in my favorite chair with a cold one, I was screaming at the tv and wondering why our coaching staff are not making the necessary adjustments.


I'll opine that what happened is called "playing not to lose" versus "playing to win". Hope Deboer and Sheridan learned something.
Posted by Marktastic86
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Member since Dec 2020
20359 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:22 am to
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we were lucky as hell to win that game. Kudos Dogs

It wasn't luck. Offense and defense made the plays when it mattered.



Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:28 am to
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UGA and Coach Smart took HUGE chances in the second half. UGA went 5 for 5 on 4th down and where any of those failed most likely Bama puts points on the board.



People don't truly understand how much of an anomaly this stat is. Especially for a coach like Kirby. I get that he was desperate and couldn't afford to punt, but the likelihood of this happening again anytime in the near future is bleak.

One came at the uga 29, uga 37, uga 46 (phantom holding penalty), uga 41, uga 27 (phantom DPI).

3 of those, if failed, wouldve put BAMA in FG range to start the drive.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by Marktastic86
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:32 am to
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People don't truly understand how much of anything anomaly this stat is. Especially for a coach like Kirby. I get that he was desperate and couldn't afford to punt, but the likelihood of this happening again anytime in the near future is bleak.

One came at the uga 29, uga 37, uga 46 (phantom holding penalty), uga 41, uga 27 (phantom DPI).

Credit to Beck and the receivers because there was tight coverage on pretty much all of these, but the catches were made. Dude can throw a slant.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8659 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:39 am to
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lucky as hell to win that game


One could easily surmise that it was uga that was lucky to even be in the game.
5-5 on 4th down?
2 of those on very generous penalties.
Uga receivers dropped 0 passes.
BAMA's defense forcing a turnover on the plus side of the field and getting 0 points.
The defense for what it's worth did it's job to secure the game. Offense just bungled it. It was 33-15 at this point. A TD here ices it. A FG ices it. Taking 5 minutes off the clock instead of 2 ices it.

So, all the "defense imploded" shite is just a fairytale. The defense caused a turnover at the uga 47 up 18 points with 13.5 minutes to play. This game shouldve been over at this point.
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