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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:16 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
I can give Mullen credit for his transfers. As far as their high school rankings go, there is quality.
But as for recruiting high schoolers on offense... I think Mullen is on par with Georgia Tech. And yes, that includes the 2020 class. All of the recruiting success goes to Grantham and the defense. The elite defensive classes are bringing up the team average.
But as for recruiting high schoolers on offense... I think Mullen is on par with Georgia Tech. And yes, that includes the 2020 class. All of the recruiting success goes to Grantham and the defense. The elite defensive classes are bringing up the team average.
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:33 pm to Gatorbait2008
It's the same story every year for Florida. You have to be able to run the ball to finish teams off.
They struggle to run the ball consistently against good teams... Either that or you have a qb that wants to eat children like burrow. Trask may transform into that . Knowing you are the starter lights a fire under your arse .
Trust me i would know
They struggle to run the ball consistently against good teams... Either that or you have a qb that wants to eat children like burrow. Trask may transform into that . Knowing you are the starter lights a fire under your arse .
Trust me i would know
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:47 pm to meansonny
What? That's a bit far in terms of Gtech comparisons. We missed on a ton of targets though last year for sure. Especially at RB. There is a reason a lot of UF fans want Knox gone. Luckily Mullen masked some misses in transfers. Still..need to stop missing at some point it's getting annoying.
Weirdly we've struggled for ten years to get elite offensive players at positions outside of QB(to bad we didn't develop the QB position well), yet landed defensive talent on the regular. Not sure why that is.
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Weirdly we've struggled for ten years to get elite offensive players at positions outside of QB(to bad we didn't develop the QB position well), yet landed defensive talent on the regular. Not sure why that is.
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:50 pm to TxTiger82
Mullen will have Florida as a ten win team as the norm. Guy is a good coach and Florida should be glad to have him.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:05 pm to Gatorbait2008
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That's a bit far in terms of Gtech comparisons
Your offensive recruiting is closer to GT than it is to UGA. That is a fact.
They got a much better RB at Tech than UF got out of high school this year.
And the QB level at GT is just about the same as UF.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:09 pm to meansonny
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But as for recruiting high schoolers on offense... I think Mullen is on par with Georgia Tech. And yes, that includes the 2020 class.
You have a list?
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:14 pm to djsdawg
quote:Tech is closer to Florida than Florida is to UGA. And yes, I have looked at the recruiting rankings on 247 composite.
You have a list?
I've looked at the 2016-2020 classes for UGA and UF very closely.
2019 and 2020 offensive classes for UF are offensive (Mullen is bringing in big name transfers. But he has flat out given up at the high school level).
Grantham is recruiting at levels he never did before. He wasn't near this good at UGA with the exception of the OLB spot.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:51 pm to meansonny
That still isnt comparable to Tech. It means Georgia recruits way better.
You just really arent developing well. I mean UF for its poor recruiting, did pretty well on offense still. That included having a terrible line because Mac had no depth and Mullen had to rebuild the entire unit last year. Now we should have a better line, with a more experienced proven QB. I'm not really worried about offense.
2021 I'll be worried. Pitts, Grimes, Toney, Pierce all gone will hurt a lot. Barring major injuries of course, offense should be very strong this year. Which is the point. Is Florida a contender this year. Seems most say yes.
You just really arent developing well. I mean UF for its poor recruiting, did pretty well on offense still. That included having a terrible line because Mac had no depth and Mullen had to rebuild the entire unit last year. Now we should have a better line, with a more experienced proven QB. I'm not really worried about offense.
2021 I'll be worried. Pitts, Grimes, Toney, Pierce all gone will hurt a lot. Barring major injuries of course, offense should be very strong this year. Which is the point. Is Florida a contender this year. Seems most say yes.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:58 pm to Gatorbait2008
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That still isnt comparable to Tech.
Tech has a stud at RB and equivalent QB to the Gators in 2020.
The rest are in the same ballpark, absolutely. With the huge grab at RB for the Jackets, they absolutely are comparable to the Gators.
The good news for Florida is that they are stockpiling the team with transfers.
The problem for Florida is that as the transfers graduate/draft eligible, they will need to he replenished with more transfers because of the level of recruiting from the high schools.
UGA fell into a hole at TE. The grad transfer market helped, but it still needed to be replaced with another grad transfer. The only way out of the hole is to grab a stud (luckily, we found one in 2020 but it still should take a year or so for him to compete at a dominant level in the SEC). I already see the pattern at UF.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:59 pm to Gatorbait2008
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. I mean UF for its poor recruiting, did pretty well on offense still.
It takes 2 years to see the benefits of great recruiting or the detriments of poor recruiting.
This isnt rocket science. It is the SEC. Upperclassmen matter.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:20 am to Gatorbait2008
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You just really arent developing well.
What specifically?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:38 am to TxTiger82
They have one of the easiest schedules I've seen. They basically have a two game schedule, Georgia and LSU. If they win one of those games they have themselves a one loss season and either win the SEC East or back their way into the playoff as the #4 seed after the SEC West winner beats the winner of the East in the SEC champ. If they lose more than 2 games then they had a massive failure of a season.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:50 am to BurgTiger
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Mullen will have Florida as a ten win team as the norm. Guy is a good coach and Florida should be glad to have him.
Mullen couldn't do it at MSU.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:59 am to OleManDixon
They have one game to win to be in the SECCG and they might have UGA’s number.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:45 am to joshnorris14
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He was a starter for Penn State last year
Not saying he is good or bad...and not telling how he will do at Florida, but he only caught 12 balls for 137 yards last year.
He was tied for 5th in receptions, and barely in 4th in yards. Not tremendously good for a starter.
In comparison we al know how bad the Georgia passing game was last season and out #5 receiver caught 21 passes for 255 yards.
To be fair, he should get more opportunities in Florida's offense. Maybe he will flourish and fulfill his potential.
Florida will be good again. If they are going to beat Georgia, this is the season to do it.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 6:05 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:i think it’s proof that you’re on an SEC message board during the off-season but you think what you want.
This is proof Mullen has UF on the rise. Georgia fans swarm UF threads in mass.
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1980..and counting
1,327 days... and counting.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 6:14 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 6:13 am to Gatorbait2008
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Yes. Because everyone in the nation recognizes he is an elite play caller.
Clearly not everyone. And I ask because if we are giving Mullen playcalling credit for both offense and defense then is it fair to assume the same for Kirby? In which case, nevermind that Kirby has managed to win more than Mullen ever has but the three times theyve met head to head as HCs, it hasn’t ever been particularly close on either side of the ball. Even recognizing a talent gap, if Mullen is this ace playcaller you’d think he could at least keep it close.
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It's a shame someone as retarded as you has one of the best movie characters in history as their profile name. I hate arguing with my favorite movie character ever. You just say stupid shite constantly though.
Oh look, the Gator fan can’t do anything but allude to how everyone else thinks their cosch is great so he resorts to ad hominem attacks. Same as it ever was.
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If you can't even recognize Mullen is an elite play caller, something universally recognized...then you are so far beyond delusional, that there is no point in arguing with you.
Let’s keep the goal posts in one place, shall we. I never said Mullen was a bad playcaller or a bad coach. He’s above average at both. Elite play callers as I see them are Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, and David Cutcliffe. I don’t think Dan Mullen is bad but I don’t view him on that level. Not anymore, anyway. At one point Mullen, Chip Kelly, Jimbo Fisher, and Gus Malzahn we’re elite play callers in the game. But I don’t think they are anymore; the defensive side of the ball has adapted to what they were doing 10-15 years ago. And I have yet to see Mullen do anything at Florida to make me say “damn, I wish we had Mullen at UGA instead of Smart, Florida really worries me.” I can believe Smart is all around better and back it up with support AND also think Mullen is still a good coach and a good playcaller the two aren’t mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 6:42 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:50 am to TxTiger82
Buying, Trask reminds me of Burrow
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:06 am to whatkindanameiskirby
I already bought and am already living off of the equity.
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