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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:54 am to BevoBucks
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Great. Then this is Auburn’s chance to set the SECr straight… Did boosters not force Gus out to hire Steele? Was there not a power struggle between AD & boosters to hire FB coach? Did Harsin grovel? Did Auburn end up paying buyout? Are there not mouthpieces for PTB’s?
Boosters do not want to babysit anybody. We did force Gus out but it was time for him to go. Boosters did not like babysitting his tendencies to go mental with playcalling (he was hired for his playcalling)
It’s the same principle as “screw up, but not on my shift.”
If Harsin attempted to recruit , he would’ve never seen the scandal. If he works his arse off then the leash will be long. You see coaches that can find their way to eventual success at Auburn and to no surprise they get along fine with mean PTB.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:02 am to jangalang
Auburn was a shite show and still is … until they have cleaned house President to the board they are and will still be a laughing stock how many coaches have turned them down knowing all the problems they have ? Kiffen , Venables …. Theh and to settle for a giy who was fired for conduct … once a duck always a duck . They are going to try and cover his bs up again and in 5 years they will be back in same place looking for a coach .
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:06 am to jangalang
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If Harsin attempted to recruit , he would’ve never seen the scandal.
FWIW, the scandal happened because of an inept admin/AD office. The actual investigation into Harsin last year was based his treatment of player and coaches. A lot of coaches and players left and I think someone told the AD they and others were mistreated.
It’s then either leaked or announced there is an investigation into Harsin going on but they don’t announce why. This starts the Twitter/message board rumors. They did nothing to squash the rumors for a full week. The damage was done after that.
Auburn has a new President and AD now. Hopefully a start to a better program.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:06 am to SidewalkTiger
I said it was a bad hire from day 1. But at least he didn't frick a shark like our PNW coach did.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:08 am to MOJO_ERASER
quote:The only coaches scared of coaching Auburn are the pussies that cannot handle the schedule.
Auburn was a shite show and still is … until they have cleaned house President to the board they are and will still be a laughing stock how many coaches have turned them down knowing all the problems they have ? Kiffen , Venables …. Theh and to settle for a giy who was fired for conduct … once a duck always a duck . They are going to try and cover his bs up again and in 5 years they will be back in same place looking for a coach .
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:10 am to mckibaj
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FWIW, the scandal happened because of an inept admin/AD office.
Very little .That’s what this quote is worth.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:11 am to jangalang
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If Harsin attempted to recruit , he would’ve never seen the scandal.
And that’s the problem. Fire him like a big-boy program. Don’t pull that.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:12 am to MOJO_ERASER
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how many coaches have turned them down knowing all the problems they have ? Kiffen , Venables …
Awww that's cute you actually think that's what happened.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:13 am to BevoBucks
It became very well known to boosters (who didnt want to hire him) from the beginning that Harsin wasn’t going to recruit or do the hand shaking/mingling it takes to be successful in the SEC.
The rumors about his attitude and recruiting habits turned out to be much worse than fans originally thought. He wouldn’t go to high school games to watch players, he would be late to games he did attend, he didn’t meet with players families, he hated the idea of NIL, he scoffed at beat writers interviewing recruits while they visited etc. Plus, all the boise boys on the staff shared the same attitude.
Bobo apparently tried to get Harsin on the right page but was immediately show down. Derek Mason even called Harsin out at a meeting and a shouting match ensued.
The rumors about the girl probably have some validity. There’s a lot of weird stuff with the Harsin family.
The issues about the players/race relations also had some validity. If Derek Mason signed a piece of paper related to the internal investigation about the race concerns, AU wouldn’t have paid Harsin a dime.
Harsin and the whole situation was terrible. But to act like he was not at fault is insane.
The rumors about his attitude and recruiting habits turned out to be much worse than fans originally thought. He wouldn’t go to high school games to watch players, he would be late to games he did attend, he didn’t meet with players families, he hated the idea of NIL, he scoffed at beat writers interviewing recruits while they visited etc. Plus, all the boise boys on the staff shared the same attitude.
Bobo apparently tried to get Harsin on the right page but was immediately show down. Derek Mason even called Harsin out at a meeting and a shouting match ensued.
The rumors about the girl probably have some validity. There’s a lot of weird stuff with the Harsin family.
The issues about the players/race relations also had some validity. If Derek Mason signed a piece of paper related to the internal investigation about the race concerns, AU wouldn’t have paid Harsin a dime.
Harsin and the whole situation was terrible. But to act like he was not at fault is insane.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:13 am to BevoBucks
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Don’t pull that.
So Auburn should've ignored those complaints from other coaches?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:20 am to SidewalkTiger
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Sidewalk Tiger
Just think,
You posted an OP with a great interview about auburn and some Alabama fan is madder that a cricket-hornet at you for no reason.
When did you trigger that kid?
Eta: oh, shite! And you caught an aggy out slide the bubble.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:25 am to Leto II
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So Auburn should've ignored those complaints from other coaches?
No way. I’m saying there’s a reason those complaints are always handled internally & never see the light of day at major corporations.
Other poster was suggesting all of that would have been swept under the rug if he could recruit better.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:29 am to BevoBucks
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Other poster was suggesting all of that would have been swept under the rug if he could recruit better.
Yes. I am saying the scandal would have never happened. It happened like a day or two after he failed to bring in a single recruit on NSD. The scandal was the means to an end.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:36 am to BevoBucks
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No way. I’m saying there’s a reason those complaints are always handled internally & never see the light of day at major corporations.
wat?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:39 am to Henry Jones Jr
He never had the full support of the administration and boosters yes, but can you explain the fact that he refused to recruit or treat their parents with respect? Covid happend to Saban, Kirby, and every other coach in the country, but why did Harsin struggle so much even BEFORE the Auburn power brokers wanted him out? He literally refused to go on the road, and ignored players when they came on visits meet him, but does ESPN mention this? Nope. Bo Nix also left PARTLY because of him but do they show both sides, or ask why a now hiesman trophy candidate left Harsin after year one? Remember all the players who gave up on him, or the fact that he disrespected Derek Mason verbally when he tried to give him advice about coaching in the SEC? ESPN doesn't like Auburn which is fine, but I hear alot of people on this board call them out for virtue signaling, and pushing their political agenda, but they all go silent when it's time to criticize Auburn?? We've all seen that they have favorites, only report one side depending on personal preference, but now they've got it right huh??? he was given more money than any of us will ever see to go away and he's a VICTIM? REALLY?!
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:42 am to Johnnycrane
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he was given more money than any of us will ever see to go away and he's a VICTIM? REALLY?!
Yeah I have a hard time feeling bad for he or his trashy family.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:44 am to jangalang
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Yes. I am saying the scandal would have never happened. It happened like a day or two after he failed to bring in a single recruit on NSD. The scandal was the means to an end.
Also hired an OC that didn’t even show up, and wasn’t hired anywhere else. Mason left for a less paying job. Lee Hunter had just announced he left and put on social media that he and others were treated like dogs.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:45 am to Johnnycrane
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He never had the full support of the administration and boosters yes, but can you explain the fact that he refused to recruit or treat their parents with respect? Covid happend to Saban, Kirby, and every other coach in the country, but why did Harsin struggle so much even BEFORE the Auburn power brokers wanted him out? He literally refused to go on the road, and ignored players when they came on visits meet him, but does ESPN mention this? Nope. Bo Nix also left PARTLY because of him but do they show both sides, or ask why a now hiesman trophy candidate left Harsin after year one? Remember all the players who gave up on him, or the fact that he disrespected Derek Mason verbally when he tried to give him advice about coaching in the SEC? ESPN doesn't like Auburn which is fine, but I hear alot of people on this board call them out for virtue signaling, and pushing their political agenda, but they all go silent when it's time to criticize Auburn?? We've all seen that they have favorites, only report one side depending on personal preference, but now they've got it right huh??? he was given more money than any of us will ever see to go away and he's a VICTIM? REALLY?!
it's so funny that AU fans are pretty much all in agreance on:
-harsin not having full buy in from the admin
-harsin being a lousy recruiter that botched MANY visits and interactions
-he played favorites at QB and ran off a legacy
-was at odds with his DC
-was less talented than most of their SEC peers
....yet they then turn around and try to say Mike Bobo sucks because he failed during his one season in that shitshow circus lol
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:46 am to Auburn80
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He could have tried recruiting. He really thought he was so brilliant he could out coach the rest of the SEC with lessor talent.
I heard another guy say that, I believe on Finebaum's show. If true, how do you dupe yourself that badly?
That shows his naivety, rather shocking I say.
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