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re: BREAKING Alabama Associate AD took 25k to steer players to Atlanta financial advisor
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:39 am to HailToTheChiz
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:39 am to HailToTheChiz
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This is a hell of a bonding experience
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 am to JustGetItRight
This story is so big, with so many tentacles, it is really hard to keep up.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 am to bamasgot13
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And let me guess, we're supposed to believe that this was only for basketball and not football?
Basketball players are in and out in 1 year or less. If they get caught and ruled ineligible, big deal. They can just go play overseas and enter the draft the next year. Football players? If they get caught and ruled ineligible their freshman or sophomore years, they’re likely never making it to the NFL. So I’m sure this is much more frequent in basketball than football
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The only difference is that Auburn's coach is red-handed black and white caught taking money from the suit guy and giving it to a kid/kids parents that is an enrollee/signee of Auburn. Alabama's doesn't appear to be as cut and dry (yet, at least).
Does this Bama guy even recruit? I don't think so, but I have no idea anymore with all that's going on.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:49 am to ArabianKnight
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Does this Bama guy even recruit? I don't think so, but I have no idea anymore with all that's going on.
No, but this whole thing really has nothing to do with recruiting (in Alabama and Auburns case, at least).
It's steering already signed or on campus athletes to a future agency.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:52 am to SummerOfGeorge
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No, but this whole thing really has nothing to do with recruiting (in Alabama and Auburns case, at least).
It's steering already signed or on campus athletes to a future agency.
au contraire, I guess you missed the talking points yesterday. They are being recruited to the school with the enticement of this after college. its all part of the process
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
Bama/AU is shady fricks being shitbagS
We don't even cheat/break the rules right in BBall in our state
We don't even cheat/break the rules right in BBall in our state
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:53 am to NYCAuburn
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au contraire, I guess you missed the talking points yesterday. They are being recruited to the school with the enticement of this after college. its all part of the process
Football players too right?
Global conspiracy!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:53 am to GenesChin
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Bama/AU is shady fricks being shitbagS
We don't even cheat/break the rules right in BBall in our state
Both football programs shaking their heads at this amateur hour business.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
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No, but this whole thing really has nothing to do with recruiting (in Alabama and Auburns case, at least).
It's steering already signed or on campus athletes to a future agency.
This (as SoG said, as it relates to Bama and AU...L'ville's stuff did involve recruiting).
As long as we can show, or NCAA/FBI can't show, money didn't go to family, then the firing of the offending party should be good. If money went to player/family, then he will be ineligible and there may be a 1 year post season ban.
The slightly decent news in this is that Bama can say to NCAA, "we hired this guy FROM you. we assumed you'd vetted him and, if anyone would know the rules and would obey them it would be someone YOU had in a compliance role". Kinda hard to slam a school for hiring your employee and then he breaks rules.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:56 am to bamasgot13
I think as of now the worst scenario for Alabama is Sexton being ruled ineligible combined with some sort of slap on the wrist I guess. And that would make me depressed.
That'd make 2 straight years a 1st round pick was committed to Alabama and never played a second (Sexton and T. Ferguson).
That'd make 2 straight years a 1st round pick was committed to Alabama and never played a second (Sexton and T. Ferguson).
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:56 am to bamasgot13
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The slightly decent news in this is that Bama can say to NCAA, "we hired this guy FROM you. we assumed you'd vetted him and, if anyone would know the rules and would obey them it would be someone YOU had in a compliance role". Kinda hard to slam a school for hiring your employee and then he breaks rules.
give that a shot.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:57 am to bamasgot13
This might be silly, but is it against NCAA rules for a staff member to recommend a financial institution to graduating players? Obviously to receive payment for it is unethical but is it a rule violation? How is it different than what many businesses do all the time in terms of giving a kick back for referrals?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:59 am to MrAUTigers
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give that a shot
I mean, it's worth a try.
Maybe these glasses are a deeper shade of crimson than I thought, but if Bama had hired a guy from Louisville who did the same thing I would think the NCAA would look at it a little more harshly than when you hire a guy FROM them. At least hiring someone who worked in compliance for them shows you value compliance.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:59 am to tider04
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This might be silly, but is it against NCAA rules for a staff member to recommend a financial institution to graduating players? Obviously to receive payment for it is unethical but is it a rule violation? How is it different than what many businesses do all the time in terms of giving a kick back for referrals?
The NCAA isn't big on professional service firms paying school representatives to sway student athletes in post-graduation decisions.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:59 am to tider04
? I asked a similar question. Is it illegal to give someone money? Not sure how the FBI has teeth here. NCAA issues aren't a criminal matter.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:00 am to AUCE05
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? I asked a similar question. Is it illegal to give someone money? Not sure how the FBI has teeth here. NCAA issues aren't a criminal matter.
It becomes illegal when the student athlete is given money and thus defrauds the University through future NCAA issues that cost the University money.
Thats why the Alabama situation is still up in the air.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:01 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Football players too right?
Global conspiracy!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:01 am to tider04
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but is it against NCAA rules for a staff member to recommend a financial institution to graduating players?
Nope. It's not against the law either. When money changes hands, it becomes against the law. Your suit broke the law. He received money to steer a player towards an agent/money manager. If none of that money passed into the hands of the player/parent, then the crime is not as large.
Person is being charged with fraud. One of the fraud charges is because he defrauded Auburn University. He made a financial gain at Auburn's, his employers, expense....while putting Auburn in harms way.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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That'd make 2 straight years a 1st round pick was committed to Alabama and never played a second (
Hey, don't forget those Canada games a month ago.
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