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Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:47 pm to
Yea, they tried like hell to get 8-4 WKU a bowl but to no avail
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:21 am to
They should seriously change it to 7 or 8 wins. Being .500 and going to a bowl is
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:23 am to
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Also, looks like the Sun Belt commissioner tried to bribe some bowls to take his teams

LINK


Wait a minute- the Bahamas bowl? Oh hell yeah! UGA can continue to suck up all the world's shitty luck if it got to to the Bahamas at the end of the season.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:51 am to
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LSU has already demonstrated that Oklahoma and Ohio State are not match for the SEC. Oregon should be next.
That was a long time ago in a Galaxy far far away!
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:57 am to
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They should seriously change it to 7 or 8 wins. Being .500 and going to a bowl is


I've said for awhile now that Bowls should be 8, possibly even 9 wins. I seem to get mixed reactions when I suggest this, as some think there is no downside to more football. I say no one really gives a shite about mediocre (sometimes even flat terrible) football from teams who have shake weights and ab rollers in their weight rooms. If only the teams that had 9 wins were allowed to play in a Bowl this year, the following teams would have a post-season:

Missouri
South Carolina
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Florida State
Clemson
Duke
Miami
Ohio State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Oregon
Arizona State
UCLA
USC
Louisville
UCF
Cincinnati
Bowling Green
NIU
Ball State
Marshall
ECU
Rice
Fresno State

That's 30 teams that're decent at worst in 15 Bowls. If we expanded it to teams with 8 wins, then we'd have:

Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Virginia Tech
Georgia
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Texas
Washington
Houston
Louisiana
WKU
Buffalo
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Utah State
Boise State
Notre Dame
BYU

Enough teams for 24 Bowls with one odd team out. Bowls are supposed to be a reward for a good season. 9-3 is a good season. .500 isn't good or bad, I don't know why we need 35-40 Bowls every year that no one cares about. If all we really cared about was more football, Arena League would be booming as a bridge from spring to real football season. But it isn't exactly booming, because no one really cares about crap teams.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 4:58 am
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:59 am to
Completely agree. I think 10 wins should be the cutoff. There should only be a handful of bowls. It should be prestigious to go to a bowl. But there's way too much money in bowl games for that to happen. If anything we'll get more bowls in the future, not less.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:07 am to
I would be completely for 10 wins, but there's no way in hell that would ever even be considered. I think 8 is a fair compromise.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12376 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:31 am to
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I would be completely for 10 wins, but there's no way in hell that would ever even be considered. I think 8 is a fair compromise.



Ditto.

Cutoff should be at 8 for BCS conferences and 10 for non-AQs. Granted, it'll never happen, but I'm tired of watching 6-6 Michigan Directional School versus 7-5 Illinois Directional School.

The fact that teams with losing records have gone to bowl games the last two years (6-7 UCLA and 6-7 Ga Tech) is a disgrace and evidence enough that we have too many bowls.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:19 am to
Rose
Sugar
Orange
Cotton
Liberty
Armed Forces
Citrus
Peach
Sun
Gator

Should be the only bowls played. That's more than enough and would keep the quality of games up. It would effectively, reward the Top 20 teams.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:56 am to
If you took only the teams with 10 wins this year, you'd have exactly enough teams to fill those ten Bowls with one team leftover.
Posted by FastLife716
Member since Dec 2013
58 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:49 pm to
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Sugar
Jan 2nd 7:30 CST ESPN
Bama vs Oklahoma


quote:

Fiesta
Jan 1st 7:30 CST ESPN
Baylor vs Central Florida


quote:


Chick-Fil-A
Dec 31st 7:00 CST ESPN
Texas A&M vs Duke


quote:

Valero Alamo
Dec. 30 5:45 CST ESPN
Oregon vs Texas



Candidates for biggest blowout. All will be really ugly games.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:15 pm to
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Cutoff should be at 8 for BCS conferences and 10 for non-AQs. Granted, it'll never happen, but I'm tired of watching 6-6 Michigan Directional School versus 7-5 Illinois Directional School.

Then don't watch. If people really didn't watch them, those bowls would go away.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:20 pm to
Big 10 crew is working the BCSNG game. ACC gets 3 of the BCS games. Big12 will work one
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20300 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:38 pm to
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Chick-Fil-A
Dec 31st 7:00 CST ESPN
Texas A&M vs Duke


Posted by mizzou09
Columbia Missouri
Member since Nov 2013
146 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:43 pm to
looks like sec is gonna kick arse
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:34 am to
I can see only six bowls I might be remotely interested in watching out of what 35?

Yea, that 4+1 is going to suck hard next year nothing to get excited about right there.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:58 am to
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I've said for awhile now that Bowls should be 8, possibly even 9 wins.


8 wins (out of a 12 game regular season) is 75% and the most reasonable for a bowl invite

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Enough teams for 24 Bowls with one odd team out.


24 bowls is much better than 35 or 36!

I might add an additional limit for schools not in Big 5 schools to win 9 or 10 games because of weaker SoS. Based on regular season wins only. Going 8-4 in the Sun Belt is probably easier than going 8-4 in the SEC.

quote:

Bowls are supposed to be a reward for a good season.


I would add that teams should be paired closer to rank than picking for beauty contests.

Taking out the top 4 (for the playoff next year) you would have bowls games like this using this years final BCS :

Stanford vs Baylor
Ohio State vs Missouri
South Carolina vs Oregon
Oklahoma vs Clemson
Oklahoma State vs Arizona State
Central Florida vs LSU
UCLA vs Louisville
Wisconsin vs Texas A&M (moved 1 slot to prevent SEC vs SEC)
Fresno State vs Georgia (moved 1 slot to prevent SEC vs SEC)
Northern Illinois vs Duke
Southern Cal vs Miami
Posted by soleckma
Member since Nov 2013
994 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:14 am to
The Bahamas Bowl????
Posted by Breazeweaze
Member since May 2012
50 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 4:56 pm to
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I've said for awhile now that Bowls should be 8, possibly even 9 wins. I seem to get mixed reactions when I suggest this, as some think there is no downside to more football.


I say as long as there are venues and sponsors that are willing to give teams a bid they should be allowed to do so. Many times you forget that it's not necessarily about whether you like the bowl matchup but these are celebrations for players and for seniors who are likely all going to play their last football game at these bowls. Don't hate on the teams who squeak by because you don't want to see the game. Just don't watch the game. If the venues and sponsors decide it's not worth their dollars to send these kids to bowls they can do so...but why force them to stop if everyone actually involved in the bowl (the venue, the teams, the city, the sponsors, and the families) are happy with the arrangement.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:15 pm to
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I say as long as there are venues and sponsors that are willing to give teams a bid they should be allowed to do so. Many times you forget that it's not necessarily about whether you like the bowl matchup but these are celebrations for players and for seniors who are likely all going to play their last football game at these bowls. Don't hate on the teams who squeak by because you don't want to see the game. Just don't watch the game. If the venues and sponsors decide it's not worth their dollars to send these kids to bowls they can do so...but why force them to stop if everyone actually involved in the bowl (the venue, the teams, the city, the sponsors, and the families) are happy with the arrangement.


I never said I "hated" anyone's team, and I don't watch those Bowls. If you're one of the people who don't mind more Bowls, that's fine. The problem I have with this line of thought is that is does nothing but water down and ruin the value of Bowl games. They're compromising the idea of putting a good game on TV in lieu of more money, and when has that kind of greed ever been OK with most people? And spare me the whole "celebration for the seniors, because these kids worked hard and it's their last game :-(" spiel. For one, if they're seniors, they're not kids. They're 22 or 23 years old. For two, if they wanted a Bowl game, maybe they should have played like they wanted it and produced a winning season. Why should anyone be rewarded with anything for "squeaking by", as you put it? Yay mediocrity!
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