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Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:19 am to auburn22
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:19 am to auburn22
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I would be willing to bet the NFL would change that rule if something like this happen.
I'm not so sure. There are only a very set few that are physically ready to go to the NFL straight from High School. Then even those kids most likely aren't mentally or emotionally ready for it. I think that there would have to be some sort of minor league system created.
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:21 am to PeeJayScammedGT
Look. I don’t necessarily disagree with you. It’s unfair that college football and basketball players make as much as they do but don’t reap the rewards that they probably deserve from it. Unfortunately the only way to change that is to cut non revenue sports which is going to cause all kinds of title ix issues. I think we all agree that the system is not perfect. But it’s the only system we have until there is an option that competes with college football. If you don’t like the option then you don’t have to play. If the players want a greater share of the revenue then they need to talk to their legislators and work to get title ix rules changed. Simplest solution in my opinion is just let the kids get endorsements.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:21 am to GusAU
Let’s take CAL’s football team. For instance.
Their AD operated at 19m in the Red last year... but let’s forget about that and just focus on Football.
Revenue of 26M , expenses 19M..
but let’s assume that we go 50/50 and the operations can someway budget to 13M.. so the other 13M goes to players..
13M div by 120 players is 108K
Less 40% taxes. Is a Net of 64K
Now they can pay their own Tuition books and board..
If your from California - est 36K a year.. that’s 30K to savings..
If your from another state - 65K a year.. you need a part time job to make up the difference..
The health stuff I’m good with and maybe even the 6yr extension, the NLI absolutely, taking care of Olympic spirts absolutely, but... the 50/50... just shut up already!
Their AD operated at 19m in the Red last year... but let’s forget about that and just focus on Football.
Revenue of 26M , expenses 19M..
but let’s assume that we go 50/50 and the operations can someway budget to 13M.. so the other 13M goes to players..
13M div by 120 players is 108K
Less 40% taxes. Is a Net of 64K
Now they can pay their own Tuition books and board..
If your from California - est 36K a year.. that’s 30K to savings..
If your from another state - 65K a year.. you need a part time job to make up the difference..
The health stuff I’m good with and maybe even the 6yr extension, the NLI absolutely, taking care of Olympic spirts absolutely, but... the 50/50... just shut up already!
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:21 am to TigerLunatik
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I think that there would have to be some sort of minor league system created.
I doubt the NFL wants to foot the bill for it and most people won't take a loss for a few years with a startup league.
The conferences have all the leverage here, its up to them whether they decide to cave or not.
I personally think these players overplayed their hand but who knows in this day and age.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:23 am to 3rddownonthe8
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The health stuff I’m good with and maybe even the 6yr extension, the NLI absolutely, taking care of Olympic spirts absolutely, but... the 50/50... just shut up already!
Plus the discriminatory shite they added.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:23 am to 3rddownonthe8
Sounds like they are just throwing shite at the wall to see what sticks honestly
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:23 am to Poker Dough
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Fair is making decisions not based in any way shape or form based on race, gender, etc. as well as leaving it completely out of all discussion.
So throw race & gender out and stop subsidizing Money losing Sports
Only go by the financial stmts, and if necessary sue the Conference Office & the NCAA & The US Dept of Education for the right to cut loose sports that operate at at worse than -10% profit
I'm willing to keep Sports that lose small amounts of Money, so I am more fair than most
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:23 am to SidewalkTiger
The NFL doesnt want to babysit 18 year olds.
They dont want to babysit 25 year olds either.
But they really dont want 18 year olds with a little bit of money.
It tarnishes the shield.
They dont want to babysit 25 year olds either.
But they really dont want 18 year olds with a little bit of money.
It tarnishes the shield.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:25 am to SidewalkTiger
I was also thinking that maybe the players would have to be on the practice squad only for 2 years before actually playing in a game. I don't know the exact answers, but 18 year old kids coming straight out of high school aren't ready to play in the NFL. Think about how many players blossomed in college that weren't highly recruited. All of those kids wouldn't ever get a shot.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:26 am to PeeJayScammedGT
They players aren't talking to the right people. All the schools get hit with title IX cases and lose (which they would) there won't be shite left to split at any percentage
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:27 am to GusAU
Look at the cost of a scholarship to one of the top 10 programs. If the head of football operations took a yellow legal pad and listed each benefit and the cost of that benefit for each player many of you would blush.
Tuition and lab fees
Book
Board
Meals
Insurance
Depending on family income an allowance
Clothes, sweats and other team Clothing such as shoes.
Tutor
Personal chef to design meals for body type of the student
And the list goes on and on.
$200,000 more or less would be about right.
A player understood what he was getting into when he signed that scholarship.
Don’t want to hold up your end of the deal?
GTFO and pay your on way. Easy to understand. Right?
Tuition and lab fees
Book
Board
Meals
Insurance
Depending on family income an allowance
Clothes, sweats and other team Clothing such as shoes.
Tutor
Personal chef to design meals for body type of the student
And the list goes on and on.
$200,000 more or less would be about right.
A player understood what he was getting into when he signed that scholarship.
Don’t want to hold up your end of the deal?
GTFO and pay your on way. Easy to understand. Right?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:29 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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So throw race & gender out
Well your political party then has no reason to exist
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:30 am to Herman Frisco
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Clothes, sweats and other team Clothing such as shoes.
This is something that I left out of my list earlier in the thread and just didn't feel like editing. But, these guys get plenty of free swag and that shite adds up too.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:30 am to GusAU
I wonder how the student athlete is different from the other unpaid labor on campus? I was a graduate assistant and in exchange for teaching labs and doing graduate work for a professor I received a Masters degree and a stipend.
I was never “paid” for all that time and I easily spent 40+ hours a week on that work for the two years it took to obtain a Masters degree.
I was never “paid” for all that time and I easily spent 40+ hours a week on that work for the two years it took to obtain a Masters degree.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:30 am to Herman Frisco
Problem is they will never get enough
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:31 am to SidewalkTiger
Well sure, obviously... don’t think anyone is against people getting treated fairly in a social level.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:32 am to ClemsonFann
It’s different. But also sorta of the same... you chose to do that to reap benefits later in your career... Same can be said for the players.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:33 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Well sure, obviously... don’t think anyone is against people getting treated fairly in a social level.
These players are asking for coaches to take pay cuts.
Also establish black only entities:
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In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus.
Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:35 am to PeeJayScammedGT
South Carolina baseball lost 1.6 M winning back to back titles... should they be cut?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:38 am to Rebel920
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If you don’t like the option then you don’t have to play. If the players want a greater share of the revenue then they need to talk to their legislators and work to get title ix rules changed. Simplest solution in my opinion is just let the kids get endorsements.
I have no problem with the other stuff you but this part feels queasy
We don't have a better system, so in order for you to pursue your dreams you have to help pay other students college Tuition
Endorsements are cool, but keeping the system the way it is and giving them a bigger Stipend is the easiest way in my opinion
4 million, 5 million, 6 million divided by 100 FB & MBB guys is $40K to 60K per year extra on top of the degree
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