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re: Bo Jackson vs. Herschel Walker
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:23 am to Turf Taint
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:23 am to Turf Taint
I think both of them were great. I was in lower middle school3-5 grade) for Herschel at Georgia and upper middle school(5-8 grade) for Bo at Auburn. These were my formative years of college football. I watched non stop, bought every preseason magazine, and was consumed by college football. I watched them both play. A lot. Herschel Walker was the best college football player I've ever seen. Period. Bo was the second best college football player I've ever seen.
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:49 am to Turf Taint
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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Both were absolutely phenomenal, freak athletes, who were blessed with the ability to do things athletically that very few if any ever had before. The incessant need to place one above the other by football fans only serves to diminish both of their incredible achievements on the field of play.
It should be enough for anyone to say that they both, along with Darren McFadden in my homer opinion, were to this point the greatest college running backs to ever play the game.
I loved watching McFadden at Arkansas. He does not belong in this discussion.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:07 am to VADawg
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I loved watching McFadden at Arkansas. He does not belong in this discussion.
Agree. Saw him live in 07. He was damn good, but nowhere near Herschel/Bo good. Not even close.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 11:23 am to msudawg1200
NFL single season rushing record is Dickerson with 2,105 yards.
Herschel in the USFL in 1985 had 2,411
Herschel in the USFL in 1985 had 2,411
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:24 pm to VADawg
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I loved watching McFadden at Arkansas. He does not belong in this discussion.
McFadden’s YPC was better than Walkers, and almost everyone we played keyed on him, and his Heisman was stolen by ESPN. By the numbers, he absolutely belongs in this discussion. The fact that he had a retard for a coach, and played on weak teams should be held in his favor, not against him.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:31 pm to troyt37
McFadden wasn't even on Derrick Henry or Leonard Fournette’s level.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:44 pm to Madking
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McFadden wasn't even on Derrick Henry or Leonard Fournette’s level.
Get real. Put either on McFadden’s Razorback teams, and I think you would see how wrong you are. Pretty sure DMac is still #2 to Walker in total yards, with a much better YPC.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:49 pm to troyt37
Not being a smartass, but did you see either Herschel or Bo play live? Remember, this was still mostly run oriented offenses. Not a lot of passing, so teams would stack 8 and even 9 in the box against them. Herschel and Bo would still blast through it. Again, McFadden was damn good, but nowhere close to those two.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:02 pm to msudawg1200
Never in person, but yes I watched both play. And if you are saying teams stacked the box against Walker and Jackson, but not against DMac, I have to ask if you ever saw him play.
ETA: Just looked it up, Casey Dick threw for less than 600 yards in 2005, less than 1000 in 2006, and less than 1700 in 2007. If you didn’t stack the box against Arkansas in those years, not only the DC, but the HC should have been fired.
ETA: Just looked it up, Casey Dick threw for less than 600 yards in 2005, less than 1000 in 2006, and less than 1700 in 2007. If you didn’t stack the box against Arkansas in those years, not only the DC, but the HC should have been fired.
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:09 pm to troyt37
McFadden was an incredible back. Troy Smith winning the Heisman over him was one of the greatest screwjobs in the history of the award.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:28 pm to Bigbens42
Good thread and question. Based off the OPs criteria, Id say Hershel. But, Bo was the best pure overall athlete.
Both were amazing players in college.
Both were amazing players in college.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:39 pm to Madking
This ignorance is astounding
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:51 pm to meansonny
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Lol
Whats his excuse before his injury?
He played a full season of baseball then played football.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:52 pm to troyt37
Well instead of resorting to fantasy let's just use your own standard to include McFadden with Walker and Jackson.
YPC
McFadden- 5.8
Fournette- 6.2
Henry- 6.0
What about best seasons?
McFadden- 1,830yrds, 16TDs, 5.6ypc
Henry- 2,219, 28TDs, 5.6ypc
Fournette- 1,953, 22TDs, 6.5ypc
On top of that for his career he had nearly 200 more carries than Henry yet still fell short in touchdowns and 170 more than Fournette to outscore him by 1.
YPC
McFadden- 5.8
Fournette- 6.2
Henry- 6.0
What about best seasons?
McFadden- 1,830yrds, 16TDs, 5.6ypc
Henry- 2,219, 28TDs, 5.6ypc
Fournette- 1,953, 22TDs, 6.5ypc
On top of that for his career he had nearly 200 more carries than Henry yet still fell short in touchdowns and 170 more than Fournette to outscore him by 1.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:56 pm to Csmims
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:15 pm to Madking
Dude. Henry and Fournette spent their college careers on teams that were absolutely LOADED with talent. What he was able to do against SEC defenses, who really had only DMac to worry about, is astounding. But it’s whatever. If I’m the only person on the planet who thinks he belongs in this discussion, I’ll still make the case.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:50 pm to troyt37
So now the standard shifts whenever you need it to, ok. You continue with this narrative that McFadden was all alone on offense yet he had a player in the backfield with him who had a better NFL season than any McFadden had and another back who had multiple 1,000 yard seasons at Arkansas who also rushed for 800 yards in 7 starts during an NFL season. Even worse is the fact that these 3 were on the field TOGETHER most of the time so this excuse you continue to make and use to move the goalpost doesn’t actually exist.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:56 pm to Madking
Give McFadden the front lines Bama and LSU had and he'd have been a 2000 yard 25+ TD back easy.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:02 pm to Madking
Half of the yardage that Jones and Hillis got was because the entire defense was keyed on DMac. You don’t really want me to start naming players that Henry and Fournette shared the field with, do you? Arkansas had talent in the backfield, no doubt. And what happens with no QB, and damn few receivers who can ball?
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