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Posted on 7/13/21 at 6:32 am to LSURulzSEC
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With having watch both of them...I'm taking Bo all day every day...
It just took one response. Shoulda been the thread ender.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 6:50 am to Madking
What an idiot. I can’t believe the administration at the asylum let children play with electronic devices. Hard to determine who’s more ignorant. You or them. The year you started with has now extended throughout many years so you can attempt to confirm your narrative In 2010 the Raiders had 0 online starters who ever made a pro bowl. In 2010 Hillis, one of my favorite players, rushed for 20 yards more than than McFadden on three more games. McFadden averaged almost a yard more per carry. And the final question I pose to your ignorant arse is who would you rather have as the staring of your team. I thought so. I’m done with you. Actually can’t believe I lowered myself as to engage in conversation with someone who is obviously having mental problems. Out.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:47 am to troyt37
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Stepnoski 92 and 93, by 95 a guy by the name of Larry Allen had been added to the OL. Might recognize that name. There was no better OL in football for 5-7 years, just like I said.
You're the dumbass. Look at all the turnover in that line. Allen was elite. Most of the starters for their first superbowl were already in Dallas and looked like crap until Emmitt showed up. Look how terrible Derrick Lassic was behind that line. Sherman Williams looked like the journeyman he was. Emmitt was the soul of those Cowboys teams. Oh and btw, you still wouldn't have gained 10 yards behind any of those lines. Learn the game.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:42 am to kajunman
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You're the dumbass. Look at all the turnover in that line. Allen was elite. Most of the starters for their first superbowl were already in Dallas and looked like crap until Emmitt showed up. Look how terrible Derrick Lassic was behind that line. Sherman Williams looked like the journeyman he was. Emmitt was the soul of those Cowboys teams. Oh and btw, you still wouldn't have gained 10 yards behind any of those lines. Learn the game.
Tuinei and Newton were there the whole time. Stepnoski was there for the 92 and 93 superbowls. Erik Williams and Larry Allen from 94 on. I'm not going to argue with you. It's pretty much acknowledged by everyone that the Cowboys had the best OL in football from about 91 to 96 or 97. it's not just ne saying it.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:49 pm to Turf Taint
It is this discussion that truly shows how fricking retarded and insecure most of my fellow UGA fans are. It's not enough that Herschel Walker was great, arguably the best, and the legitimate equal to Bo Jackson, they have to say that it isn't close and that Herschel is far and away better.
They're both great. Herschel was a better pure tailback, and he carried UGA more than Bo carried Auburn, but Auburn ran a wishbone and had Tommy Agee (an 7-year NFL fullback), Lionel James (an NFL runningback who set the all-time NFL record for all-purpose yards), and Brent Fullwood (a consensus All-American and NFL Pro Bowl runningback). Bo didn't carry his team like Herschel because Auburn had NFL talent galore in its backfield.
Herschel undoubtedly had the better NFL career, but Bo was also great (as a part-time player).
They're both great. Herschel is in the Hall of Fame (I think), and Bo was a transcendental two-sport athlete and all-star in MLB and NFL. Herschel was a better pure runningback, but if you ask a random dude in Bratislava, Slovakia, he probably doesn't know who Herschel Walker is, but may well know who Bo Jackson is.
The only wrong answer is that it isn't close, or that one is very clearly better than the other.
They're both great. Herschel was a better pure tailback, and he carried UGA more than Bo carried Auburn, but Auburn ran a wishbone and had Tommy Agee (an 7-year NFL fullback), Lionel James (an NFL runningback who set the all-time NFL record for all-purpose yards), and Brent Fullwood (a consensus All-American and NFL Pro Bowl runningback). Bo didn't carry his team like Herschel because Auburn had NFL talent galore in its backfield.
Herschel undoubtedly had the better NFL career, but Bo was also great (as a part-time player).
They're both great. Herschel is in the Hall of Fame (I think), and Bo was a transcendental two-sport athlete and all-star in MLB and NFL. Herschel was a better pure runningback, but if you ask a random dude in Bratislava, Slovakia, he probably doesn't know who Herschel Walker is, but may well know who Bo Jackson is.
The only wrong answer is that it isn't close, or that one is very clearly better than the other.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:53 pm to Csmims
The projection and stupidity on your part is amazing. I didn’t create this narrative and I never said Hillis was better or as good as McFadden. You can’t stay on topic because everything is a deflection or excuse. You and the other toothless Arky trailer park dwellers tried to say all McFadden’s teammates were shite. I posted stats and facts that prove they weren’t then you created this strawman about Hillis being better and the even more insane statement that the Browns were better than the Raiders. Again you’ve posted 0 stats, you cherry pick facts while ignoring others just like you pretend McFadden didn’t play for or have his second best season behind the best Oline in football.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:47 pm to Madking
Obviously you wouldn’t know the truth if it caved in your tent on the sidewalk. Many facts have been given to you but you’re to stupid to comprehend. Did you even get past the sixth grade. I’m done with your ignorant arse.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:49 pm to Turf Taint
Herschel
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:08 pm to Turf Taint
Its Herschel, and its not close
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:59 pm to Leto II
Herschel was the more durable football player but Bo was more electric and agile, shifty.
See the number of college carries and yards per carry in college for reference.
Herschel Walker in 3 seasons
5259 yards, 994 rushes, 5.3 yards per rush
Bo Jackson in 4 seasons
4303 yards, 650 rushes, 6.6 yards per rush
Herschel was a workhorse. He had many more rushes in fewer seasons but Bo averaged almost 25% more yards per rush (6.6-5.3)/(5.3) which is a lot.
Bo played with several other RBs that played in the NFL such as Agee, Little Train Lionel James and Brent Fullwood who was a top 4 overall draft pick.
In terms of speed, their times are so close that it’s futile to debate as Herschel focused more on track in college than Bo & Deion Sanders for that matter.
Back in those days, they ran the 60 yard dash. To convert to the metric system, they often times try to convert the 60 yard time to a 55 meter time and the times get skewed slightly as 60 yards is actually 54.864 meters.
To my knowledge, they raced 2x in college and split 1 to 1 over 60 yards.
In the 60 yard dash,
Herschel was in the 6.12-6.15 range
Bo was in the 6.15-6.18 range in far fewer races
Bo & Deion both played college baseball which overlapped with track. Hence, they rarely practiced track. No matter how good of a natural athlete you are you will not reach your fastest time without some level of practice, not even in the 60 yard dash and definitely not the 100m dash as you will not have the speed maintenance without the track reps.
See the number of college carries and yards per carry in college for reference.
Herschel Walker in 3 seasons
5259 yards, 994 rushes, 5.3 yards per rush
Bo Jackson in 4 seasons
4303 yards, 650 rushes, 6.6 yards per rush
Herschel was a workhorse. He had many more rushes in fewer seasons but Bo averaged almost 25% more yards per rush (6.6-5.3)/(5.3) which is a lot.
Bo played with several other RBs that played in the NFL such as Agee, Little Train Lionel James and Brent Fullwood who was a top 4 overall draft pick.
In terms of speed, their times are so close that it’s futile to debate as Herschel focused more on track in college than Bo & Deion Sanders for that matter.
Back in those days, they ran the 60 yard dash. To convert to the metric system, they often times try to convert the 60 yard time to a 55 meter time and the times get skewed slightly as 60 yards is actually 54.864 meters.
To my knowledge, they raced 2x in college and split 1 to 1 over 60 yards.
In the 60 yard dash,
Herschel was in the 6.12-6.15 range
Bo was in the 6.15-6.18 range in far fewer races
Bo & Deion both played college baseball which overlapped with track. Hence, they rarely practiced track. No matter how good of a natural athlete you are you will not reach your fastest time without some level of practice, not even in the 60 yard dash and definitely not the 100m dash as you will not have the speed maintenance without the track reps.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:18 pm to Leto II
Not specific to the topic, but ESPN Sports Science was a highly analytical show that would dissect game film and even tested some active athletes in an athletic lab test setting.
They had a competition for the Best Athlete of All-Time:
Bo Jackson- 1st place
He beat Jim Brown (2nd place) in the finals.
Bo actually beat Michael Jordan in the semifinals.
This was the BEST ATHLETE not the most accomplished or greatest champion but the guy you’d pick if you were competing in an athletic event but you didn’t know what the even would be beforehand.
They had a competition for the Best Athlete of All-Time:
Bo Jackson- 1st place
He beat Jim Brown (2nd place) in the finals.
Bo actually beat Michael Jordan in the semifinals.
This was the BEST ATHLETE not the most accomplished or greatest champion but the guy you’d pick if you were competing in an athletic event but you didn’t know what the even would be beforehand.
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