re: Bigger meltdown on its way?

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you imply that you DO care that he had the intent to break the rules, even if he did not do so

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well yes, that speaks to his character... so most people do care if he was asking schools for money

It also says he doesn't care if he gets the school in trouble... he just wants to get paid... so it says he is selfish

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by your definition i'll take 25 "dirty" 4 and 5 stars every year at lsu as long as we dont pay them or break any rules in the process

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I wouldn't. they would go looking for trouble in one way or another

you get into trouble with those guys... whether it's low grade cheating or NCAA violations

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to keep it simple for you, i dont give a rats arse if he didnt break the rules. i do care if he did break the rules.

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So if they are able to prove that he asked for money, but are never able to prove that he received money, you believe the situation went like this:

Cam - I want 200k to come play for Auburn.
Auburn - Well, we can't do that, but we'll have you come play for us for free.
Cam - Ok, sounds good.

And your ok with that? It's pretty clear that you don't care if he broke the rules, you just care if it can be proven that he broke the rules. Which is not a big deal. You are just failing at trying to sound impartial.

Try not to flatter yourself so much. You are playing well this year for the first time in a while. Nobody really cares that much about Auburn. However, most of us think its funny watching all of this come out after you guys are having so much undeserved success so quickly under your lincoln towncar limo driving coaching staff.

If Newton and/or AU get busted over this deal, most of us will chuckle and try not to act surprised.

If everyone turns out clean, we will shrug, make a few threads, then go about our college football seasons. Auburn is a one trick pony and that pony might have come at a premium price.

At this point in the season its either follow the Auburn meltdown or bitch about the BCS formula. We get to bitch about BCS stuff every year, so Auburn's drama is a breath of fresh air.

edit: no, i'm not mad

edit: yes, i am aware AU beat Arkansas

i think if all is proven that cam did nothing wrong there won't be a melt down at all. We will all just go back to discussing football instead of auburns bullshite cheating drama

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FWIW I'll still feel great when Cam is exonerated knowing that it took all he had to barely beat LSU.

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Auburn could have scored again at will. They knelt in victory formation inside the LSU 15 and killed the clock.

I guess that's "barely" in the mind of the rantardesque.

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The unnamed sources have been confirmed to be 2 MSU recruiters. The NCAA has CONFIRMED this.

I have no clue what you're talking about at this point.

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right, but it doesnt mean that the unnamed sources have told the truth. just cause they said it doesnt make it fact.

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HawgAlude: Actually, it would work better for us and you to both win out and you go to the BCS Championship game while we go to the Sugar Bowl as the number 2 SEC team.

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The only SEC tie-in with the Sugar Bowl is for the SEC champ correct? They don't have to take an SEC team if the champ goes to the BCSNCG. I also don't think they are obligated to take the "#2 SEC team". I think they could pick anybody they wanted, regardless of head-to-head record, as long as they ranked high enough in the BCS (#14?).

Odds are a 10-2 LSU and a 10-2 arky would both be left out of the BCS in your scenario and go to 2nd tier bowls like the Cotton and Gator. I also think the Sugar Bowl would take a 2-Loss LSU or Bama team before arky if they could (they won't this year), regardless of head-to-head records.

But a 2-Loss SEC team has gone to the Sugar before ('06)? Yes, but there are just too many 1-Loss (and 0-Loss and 2-Loss) teams ahead of both of us (assuming 2 L's each) right now, and there are only 4 BCS at large spots (and TCU and BSU eat up 2 of them). The PAC10, Big XII, or Big 10 will get 2 teams in this year (e.g. Stanford, tOSU, MSUn, etc.) and the SEC won't get a 2-Loss team in this year.

LSU is in if: Cam-gate happens, or if they win out and aubie goes to NC.

arky is in if: Cam-gate happens and they win out and the gumps lose to aubie. NOT if aubie goes to NC and they win out. You guys are most likely going to have to win your own conference before you get in a BCS bowl. (As it should be -- I would say the same about LSU in the BCSCG without winning the SEC).

Bowl projections for (your scenario) if arky wins out, aubie in NC, (and LSU goes 10-2):

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