shel311
| Favorite team: | New Orleans Pelicans  |
| Location: | McKinney, Texas |
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| Registered on: | 8/9/2004 |
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quote:I'm not sure people realize how little effort this is.
Z shared yesterday that he’s also making it a point to sink a minimum of 50 3 pointers every day after practice, he won’t leave the building until he does
This is probably not even 10 minutes of work, I surely ain't crowning him for this.
My 15 year old goes to the local Shoot 360 a couple of times a week and gets up 300+ shots in 30 minutes. He usually splits 15 minutes on middies and 15 minutes on 3s, so he gets up 150 3s in 15 minutes.
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quote:9 years, he hasn't been a difference maker.
This is just not true.
He's a middle-tier starter that his previous teams couldn't figure out what to do with.
re: What do you see as a "successful" year? On the flip, what would make you question the FO?
Posted by shel311 on 10/3/26 at 7:47 pm to Dantheman504
quote:In 517 games and over 15k minutes, Dejounte Murray's career On-Off is 0.0.
Murray is a high end starter who makes others better
re: What were your expectations this team would look like going into the season?
Posted by shel311 on 9/30/26 at 11:36 am to Tigerfan1999
quote:10 wins and the playoffs.
What were your expectations this team would look like going into the season?
quote:Without injuries, slightly worse. i expected 10-2 minimum preseason and right now, would say 9-3.
And how much better or worse has the team looked so far?
With injuries, it's tough because we can go 9-3 and while playoffs were the goal and that would be a fail, i would be ok with it if injuries just rack up and it's clearly effectiing our top level we can reach.
quote:We should celebrate this by putting up a banner that says "joy" in the practice facility.
You want to talk about reaching for something. Oh my God, thr players actually said they were happy before the season started; has something like this ever been said before??? This is next level sunshine pumping.
quote:More so on Pels Twitter, but I see so much talk of Zion being a generational talent who still has MVP potential, it's wild.
Year 8 baby! This is the year it finally happens! Got any examples of often injured and overweight guys making a leap from being a top 50ish player to top 15 in an offseason? In year 8? We know what Zion is, he is not a top 15 player, just stop.
Luka's out here averaging 34/8/8 for an entire season and can't win an MVP. We would go crazy if Zion put up those stats for ONE game, they are not the same lol. A quick AI check shows Zion has done that twice in his 7 year career, just for reference :lol:
re: What do you see as a "successful" year? On the flip, what would make you question the FO?
Posted by shel311 on 9/30/26 at 11:27 am to ghost2most
quote:That dream is over unfortunately.
Zion becomes top 15 player.
I fully and very confidently believe there is a 0.0% chance that happens, again unfortunately.
Zion isn't as athletic as he used to be. We can see he's gotten in better shape, but he does not have the mentality of the dudes who are top 15 players to get to that level. He's just so far away, his game is so limited, it just cannot happen. I wish it could, but that ship has sailed.
re: What do you see as a "successful" year? On the flip, what would make you question the FO?
Posted by shel311 on 9/30/26 at 11:24 am to Dantheman504
quote:Oh, I certainly agree with that. But I'd call that a successful transaction, not a successful season on the court.
Moving on from Z and anyone else holding us back IS success one way or another.
quote:That IS basically all I care about, that and what a trade package for Trey could be, since we won't compete for much of anything any time soon. I'd prefer to not trade him without context, but getting the right return for him is better for the franchise given where we are now imo.
If y'all really think the current team is so bad then all you should care about is Fears/ Queen/ '27 Bucks and whoever ends up looking good this year to keep with them.
quote:Not really. i can expect the team to be bad, it does not mean it was a successful season if they're less bad but not exactly good.
I find it amusing that people in here will expect no more than 20 wins and then act like its only successful to them if we make the playoffs. Because expecting 20 wins and getting 44 would be a huge step back.
This is a team that hasn't been rebuildilng for years. We won 49 games 3 seasons ago, we 100% were NOT rebuilding the past 2 years. If you're not rebuilding, the goal at an absolute minimum should always be playoffs, considering over half the conference makeks the playoffs, and 3-4 of those will be tanking. I can expect 32 wins and still call 38 wins and missing the play in a failure of a season, those 2 things do not contradic t each other.
quote:More likely a 12 seed.
Do this and you are a play in Team
re: 1st unit vs 2nd unit
Posted by shel311 on 9/30/26 at 11:19 am to brmark70816
quote:Irrelevant to what you said.
That is literally $114M in salary vs 38M.
quote:Every single 1 of the 4 is better than the 2nd group, it's not close.
For all of that additional spending, they maybe slightly better.
quote:I can, it ain't nearly what you think it would be.
I can't even imagine the moves we could have made shipping out those 5 deals, with $150M in other deals
Trey is about the only one who could have gotten actual players back, young assets. The rest, you wouldn't get back much in terms of players who would have made this team any good.
Zion and Trey were healthy last season, and we won 26 games. You would absolutely not get back players who would be as good as Zion/Trey immediately, so this season's team would most certainly be worse by a considerable margin if you traded those players. Not even sure why that is disputed.
quote:And a bottom 3 starting 5.
I'm pretty sure we could have built up a pretty solid bench behind that group.
quote:You argued that Lane Kiffin didi not progress the offense fast enough because Treydez Green was on the team.
I never said this, much less argued it.
quote:So now your argument is that we should not have specific plays designed for Treydez freaking Green? :rotflmao:
Ok. So there were no specific plays designed for Trey’Dez, got it.
quote:Again, put all your eggs in that 1 game sample size basket. it's almost like, someone has to catch the passes when your best pass catcher is not playing. You seem to think because Treydez Green is good that a Lane Kiffin offense playing well after a good player gets hurt proves that the team is better off without that player.
Awfully odd coincidence that Jackson Harris, one of LSU’s biggest receivers, had a breakout game the first game Trey’Dez didn’t play.
There's quite literally zero reason to think the offense would not have been even better this past Saturday if Treydez Green played, they almost certainly would have been.
But you’re right, the offense and/or Jackson Harris didn’t progress without Trey’Dez.
Arguing that we're better off with Zach Grace getting Green's snaps is hilarious :lol:
re: No Way This Guy is Running an NBA team
Posted by shel311 on 9/29/26 at 4:44 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Weird reply to a quote of mine that is just a simple fact. :lol:
The Saints were 1-15 in 1980, go wear a paper bag for the rest of your life.
quote:We win 57 games, book it!
Last season. last season. Last season. Its not last season, Its this season.
Because it's THIS season!!!
quote:I gave you a loooong list of Dumars frick ups.
Did we frick up swapping out Hawk for Mathurin? Hiring Mosley/ Shammgod? Having our players the happiest they've ever been to be here? We are actually building a real culture and not some fabricated bullshite from the Griffin era.
quote:I'll be happy when winning consistently happens. Feel free to be happy with 24 wins per year.
How about being happy we hit on 2 lottery picks in the same year when we are essentially 1/7 the past 13 years?
quote:I'm not sure there's a person I can name that does a worse job of not appearing bat shite crazy than Candace Owens :lol:
It's easy to say the husband should have picked up on her being bat shite multiple personality crazy......but she seemed to do a realistic job of appearing normal when she was doing her "Minority woman voice within the Republicans" bit.
quote:Over half the league makes the playoffs. We aren't tanking and haven't been recently, how missing the playoffs in any capacity is being labeled success is just wild to me.
You just admitted failure
quote:Playoffs are a success, no playoffs are a failure.
What do you see as a "successful" year? On the flip, what would make you question the FO?
It's really that simple. We didn't tank last season, we aren't trying to tank this season...missing the playoffs is a failure.
Now that being said, looking at the team, the expectation for me is....something like 32 wins.
So we can win 35 games which is more than I expect, but it's still a failure from our front office on down.
re: No Way This Guy is Running an NBA team
Posted by shel311 on 9/29/26 at 3:55 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Don't need to make things up when we have facts to show how much Dumars has fricked up since he took over.
Are you going to give some hypothetical where we traded away 18 y/o Lebron for Queen?
re: No Way This Guy is Running an NBA team
Posted by shel311 on 9/29/26 at 3:54 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Whoa...the idea that Dumars hasn't fricked anything up is crazy.
Until they actually frick something up
Trading CJ for Jordan Poole was a colossal frick up.
So was the Queen trade. You can argue you think Queen will be good, the value we gave up for that trade was another colossal frick up, considering we want on to win 26 games in one of the best draft classes in a loooooong time. And we weren't even trying to tank since we didn't have the pick, which lessened our odds of getting a higher pick in a loaded draft.
Not dropping Zion when we had the chance, easily could be argued as nother frick up.
Winning 26 games last season then adding only Mathurin...that's a frick up.
quote:Zion played games last season...we won 26 of them.
If we see the same old Pels losing close games, Z not playing, bad shots and defense then alright. Until then these people need to just stfu and talk about the actual healthy talent on the roster.
Dumars' entire tenure has been nothing but frick up after frick up
quote:Of course, as we should have been doing.
No, we were trying to get him the ball as much as possible
quote:Not necessarily. I could just as easily say getting the ball to your best players progresses the offense faster.
but forcing others to get involved progresss the offense faster.
Again, 1 good performance against A&M doesn't prove a point. It's a 1 game sample, and the Oline pass pro against A&M compared to the Ole Miss game was infinitely more instrumental in the difference in the passing game than TreyDez Gree being available vs absent.
You're also arguing that Lane Kiffin doesn't know how to get the most out of good offensive players, which no one should believe, that's probably the main reason we got him...we know he's elite at that.
re: Senate passes PCSA this evening
Posted by shel311 on 9/29/26 at 11:11 am to BallChamp00
quote:I did, surely seems like you didn't if you think what I said is incorrect.
So you didn’t read anything?
quote:He was 2nd on the team in catches before A&M, stop pretending the offense was trying to only focus on him.
With Trey’Dez being out, our offense has found its identity, running a true pass offense instead of focusing on one player.
quote:You don't spend top 3-5 money in the portal at a top flight program like LSU and then say you can't expect this team to be 1 of the best 12 in the nation.
I didn’t think this was our year. I thought it was too much to expect playoffs in year 1 of Kiffin.
Missing the playoffs would absolutely mean LSU did not play to expectations this season.
That being said, injuries do suck and can derail a season, and Kiffin certainly should receive grace if it's pretty clear that injuries are the reason we didn't meet those expectations.
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