shel311
| Favorite team: | New Orleans Pelicans  |
| Location: | McKinney, Texas |
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| Registered on: | 8/9/2004 |
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re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/19/26 at 10:52 am to Chad504boy
quote::lol: :lol: :lol:
negative. always was discussing who was signing 4 yr deals this year.
Ok, so you won't admit when you were obviously wrong. Good luck with that.
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quote:I believe MIke Brown and Jordan Ott as well.
Recent NBA head coaches who signed four-year deals include JJ Redick with the Los Angeles Lakers, J.B. Bickerstaff with the Detroit Pistons, and Charles Lee with the Charlotte Hornets.
Welp...
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/19/26 at 10:36 am to Chad504boy
quote:You thought you were cooking and got put in your place.
Any other ancient history you wanna share?
You could have just admitted you had no idea how rare it was to get 5 and 4 was the standard. Admitting you were wrong is always an option.
re: Iran says peace proposal includes reparations for war damage, US troop withdrawal.
Posted by shel311 on 5/19/26 at 10:18 am to BobBoucher
quote:So Trump lied when he said this would be over quickly.
Who said anything about surrendering? They won’t. Ever.
If Iran won't ever surrender, this is a multi decade thing we have to dael with. Fun!
quote:This guy gets it
We need to leave Iran completely and force Israel only to send hundreds of thousands of troops into Iran to fight and die while we watch from a safe distance so that they can secure freedom for precious ole Israel! We could even give Israel a few thumbs up and wish them luck as they do it!
re: Iran says peace proposal includes reparations for war damage, US troop withdrawal.
Posted by shel311 on 5/19/26 at 10:17 am to Chuck Barris
quote:The only reason we're there is for Trump to save face. American soldiers will die just so Trump won't look bad pulling out now.
Ask yourselves: Are these the negotiating points of a nation with "no cards," or the negotiating points of a nation that thinks they have the upper hand?
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 4:48 pm to bstaceyau19
quote:4 is, not 5.
Um, 5 years is a standard contract for an NBA coach,
re: If he can get us to the playoffs 3 times in the next three years I’m in.
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 4:05 pm to Tigerjim09
quote:Mosley has a .461 career winning percentage. Gentry was .457.
The dude is a good coach. He will be the best coach we’ve had in at least a decade
Mosley .368 in the playoffs, Gentry over .500.
He's certainly not as accomplished as SVG either, at .566.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 3:23 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Orlando had 2 more wins than the Heat.
He took over a rebuild Shel. A top 15 w-l record tells me he can be a top 15 head coach in the league lol
We really wanna argue that he's better than Spo? Because that's the logic in using W/L record for this season only...
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 3:20 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:189-221 career record, does that scream top 15 to you?
We keep saying hes not top 15 yet his win-loss this year was literally 15th best
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 3:19 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:If you want a legit good coach, it's the only chance.
Which is more than your "nothing"
For an org who won't ever get interest from a legit good coach nor will a legit good coach want to come here, that's the path to getting a good coach.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 2:13 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:Right. So sure, you're correct, that IS leverage...IF Mosley is your only option, and you're not willing to look at other guys if you can't get a deal that works for this franchise and you're willing to put Mosley ahead of what's best for the franchise.
That's fine if you feel that way. There were reports that Mosley was their #1 guy if he became available and that's how it played out. If he was Dumars wanted Mosley, he's going to cave to any leverage Mosley has.
If he's your buddy and he's been the guy you've been looking at since Nov, and once he was fired, you knew all along he was the guy you were hiring no matter what, then yes, that is leverage.
quote:That should be causing major red flags to go off right now.
It wasn't here's an offer. Take it or leave it. It was more in line with a what would it take to get you to sign the dotted line.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 2:08 pm to Chad504boy
quote:We traded Dyson to win now. We were 1000% NOT rebuilding these past 2 seasons.
we have overhauled the entire front office and now have completed the new direction with a new head coach.
quote:There's nothing wrong with being a fan of a team and also being a realistic about that team.
its sort of a part of the obligation of being a fan to have fun in hope moving forward. if you can't do that to some degree, then i don't see the point of being a fan.
quote:That's been Chad's stance over this entire 2 year span where we've won less than 50 games.
So everything is fine and dandy?
And Gayle is not cheap either, that too!!!
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 2:03 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Never siad there's a coach currently in the top 15 who is available, hence the point where I said you whiffed on what I actually said.
GO HIRE A TOP 15 COACH THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
You whiffed again.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 2:03 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:That should give him zero leverage over the Pels.
His leverage is his current contract with Orlando
quote:Cool, then don't take the job now.
He's getting paid for the next two years regardless so he doesn't have to take a job now
We're using the term "leverage" in a situation where it only works if the Pels HAVE to hire this guy, which they did not.
Pels leverage should have been moving on to the next candidate if he wouldn't take anything less than 5 years. But as we know, the Pels had this in the works since November, so he could get whatever he wanted because he was the only coach we really wanted.
quote:He really didn't, unless you assume the Pels could not walk away.
Right or wrong, he had the leverage in the negotiation
quote:No one takes him seriously.
That's always your come back. Your reputation precedes you. Everyone know who the low IQ troll is on these boards.
It's my bad for even engaging him.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 1:52 pm to Chad504boy
quote:No, you just can't comprehend what I'm saying.
you are saying a bunch of fricking nonsense.
quote:Considering you just completely whiffed on my entire premise, yea you kinda proved that point.
yeah cause you are so fricking wise
Now get madder and curse more, that'll really help make your points.
re: Willie Green 2.0
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 1:50 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Then don't sign him.
you think a veteran coach is signing a contract for less than 5 years? that's the funny part.
He has no leverage. No one else wants him and we don't NEED him.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 1:49 pm to Chad504boy
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He's not a top 15 coach.
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What are you even saying!
How can I possibly make that any more concise?
Your'e out of your league right now, more posting is just not a good idea for you.
quote:Aaaand you whiffed again.
He's as close to a top 15 coach than anyone else available for us to hire.
re: Mosley hired
Posted by shel311 on 5/18/26 at 1:46 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:2 positive things on a resume does not make him good.
You said he had nothing in his resume saying hes a good coach. I gave you two reasons.
You can't just point to the good, you have to take the whole.
He's not a top 15 coach. He's a below average NBA coach. I see zero reason to be excited about hiring a coach we all know is a below avg NBA head coach.
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