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Big 12 PAC 12 consider merger

Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:57 am
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:57 am
Talk about a do nothing conference. You’d think USC and Oregon would hate it because SOS would be affected negatively.

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Posted by GeauxTigerNation
Member since 1988
Member since Nov 2013
13429 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 3:58 am to
USC and Oregon are trash too
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2770 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:01 am to
USC, UCLA and Oregon are so overrated that a B12 team wins that conference every year going forward if they do This
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65291 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 5:54 am to
Yeah frick it just put us in the AAC
Posted by FirstCityDawg
Member since May 2017
2531 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 6:26 am to
Oklahoma St. and TCU are the winners here.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:27 am to
nothing will come of this

Best available option would be

Tech
TCU
OSU
KU

To take the Pac to 16 and let the old Pac8 have their own division but that wont happen either.

Big 12 is stuck adding from AAC / MWC

Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 7:30 am to
The important ones in the PAC should flee to the Big10.

Then important ones left in the Big12 go to ACC.

Until contracts are up and make one giant league out of actual draw fan bases.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7623 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:11 am to
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USC and Oregon are trash too

Oregon won’t be trash for long buddy
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5128 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:23 am to
Can't wait to see the University of Southern California play a Pacific 20 Conference game in Morgantown, WV.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:23 am to
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Oregon won’t be trash for long buddy


He said Oregon, not Orgeron
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:27 am to
USC in 2019 averaged about 62K per home game (63k for UCLA).

Football on the left coast is about done.

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Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12239 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:45 am to
You mean what is left after KU and Iowa State go to BIG 10.

So the PAC-18?
PAC-17 If ACC take WVU.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:47 am
Posted by Saddletramp
Member since Jan 2017
67 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:51 am to
Exactly, most people have missed that the landscape has changed when it comes to value. TV market size is less important than actual viewers.

For 2020 if you combine big 12 and pac 12 sans OU/TX, the big 12 would have 11 of top 20 most viewed games. Iowa State vs Kansas state would have been the most watched game...Arkansas State vs Kansas state would have been 11. Granted i only used one data source but this says the pac 12 is in trouble next round of negotiations and should make the B1G leery of merging.

Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9506 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:14 am to
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Oklahoma St. and TCU are the winners here.


None of the schools involved that Frankenstein's merger are winners here.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5672 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:14 am to
That’s a lot of travel costs. Will be interesting to see how this would impact the pending lawsuits from Bowlsby regarding ESPN meddling, and whether the GOR is still valid thru 2025. Not to mention exit fees owed for OU/tu leaving prior to 2025 (if they so choose).
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42573 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:19 am to
That is actually decent for how terrible those teams are.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:22 am to
This would do nothing to add to the value for the future tb revenue. ESPN & Fox basically already told the Big 12 that they wouldn't get nowhere near the money that the SEC or B1G would get, and that was with OU & TU. That is why OU & TU bolted. The TV networks sure aren't going to increase the per school payout to the PAC-12 if they add more schools that they've already deemed as not very valuable. If this happens, then you might as well consider that merged conference at the AAC level because their revenue won't be anywhere close to the SEC or B1G.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:23 am
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:22 am to
Let it go, they SUCK!!!
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