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re: Better Offensive Mind: Bobby Petrino or Gary Crowton?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 11:28 am to Bert Lyons 716
Posted on 8/23/09 at 11:28 am to Bert Lyons 716
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Petrino's players were a yr older than the previous coordinators too. You can't have it both ways.
You brought up Ronnie Brown, Carnell Williams, and Jason Campbell as a point that Petrino didn't utilize them correctly.
When in reality:
Ronnie Brown had his best season in 2002.
Carnell Williams was injured.
Jason Campbell had very similiar statistics in 2002 as he did the very next year in 2003, when Petrino was gone. I said that it took another two years for him to have a Senior season that also acted as a true breakout season for him. Using those three players as a point against Petrino in 2002 shows how utterly clueless you are.
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Where did Auburn rank in total offense the yr Petrino was there?
#52; but overall our offense in 2002 >>> our offense in 2001.
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Posted on 8/23/09 at 12:27 pm to Ross
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#52; but overall our offense in 2002 >>> our offense in 2001.
Once again,you can't have it both ways!
2004>2002.
Hog fans,let's see what happens in the next 5 yrs.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:02 pm to Bert Lyons 716
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Once again,you can't have it both ways!
2004>2002.
Hog fans,let's see what happens in the next 5 yrs.
What on earth are you talking about? Petrino's stay at Auburn was a failure because two years after he left Borges was able to take advantage of having two senior running backs both of NFL caliber and a QB that was finally having a breakout season? Along with having a exponentially better defense and better talent all around; this is seriously the best you can come up with?
You fail.
Petrino improved our offense during his one year stay here; and it was significant improvement. That is all that needs to be said. Oh; that, and you are a blithering idiot.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:04 pm to Ross
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What on earth are you talking about? Petrino's stay at Auburn was a failure because two years after he left Borges was able to take advantage of having two senior running backs both of NFL caliber and a QB that was finally having a breakout season?
You fail.
Borges revamped the offense. Hogboy,wait and see what Petrino does at Arky.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:06 pm to Bert Lyons 716
Tell me how that reflects negatively on Petrino; and I'll be sure to tear apart your inane point.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:16 pm to Ross
:crickets:
And you're offline. Fantastic.
Bert you are quickly becoming, in my mind, as bad as wildrebeltime in terms of stupidity in your posts. However, WRT actually uses some factual information to influence his arguments, even though they are distorted facts. You just base your arguments on name calling and ineptitude.
And you're offline. Fantastic.
Bert you are quickly becoming, in my mind, as bad as wildrebeltime in terms of stupidity in your posts. However, WRT actually uses some factual information to influence his arguments, even though they are distorted facts. You just base your arguments on name calling and ineptitude.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:32 pm to Ross
IMO Petrino, I'd never even heard of Crowton til I read this
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:53 pm to Triple6Rebel
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IMO Petrino, I'd never even heard of Crowton til I read this
No one knows who Crowten, (Crowton?), is. It's a ridiculous thread and right up there with "Who is better: McFadden or (Insert some scubs name here)?".
If you place Carlton or whomever the other gentleman discussed is ahead of Petrino then you are either a blind homer for whomever Carl coaches for or you are a retard.
On to Bert:
Bert doesn't get enough grief from this board. His posts are more absurd than WRT's and when it comes time to back up the shite he says, he disappears. At least WRT has a big enough pair of testicles to defend his own remarks.
Bert on the other hand is a chicken shite asshat that will not reappear until the next opportunity to poke his head in an unrelated thread, ignore all the pending questions in previous threads, and start the shite all over again.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 1:58 pm to LSU Yellow Cab
quote:and lsu didn't run the ball last year?
And they were still able to run the ball on teams, amazing huh?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 2:01 pm to Ross
quote:that just means he was better than the one before him.
You going to respond to the fact that our offense under Petrino > our offense before Petrino?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 2:10 pm to woopiginaustin
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No one knows who Crowten, (Crowton?), is.
Now that's just a lie.
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It's a ridiculous thread and right up there with "Who is better: McFadden or (Insert some scubs name here)?".
When comparing the two's offensive prowess; it's much closer than you'd want to admit. As for head coaching, I already have established that Petrino would obviously win that contest. In this debate; I also think Petrino is a better offensive mind than Crowton; but I think it's a very close comparison.
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On to Bert:
Bert doesn't get enough grief from this board. His posts are more absurd than WRT's and when it comes time to back up the shite he says, he disappears. At least WRT has a big enough pair of testicles to defend his own remarks.
Bert on the other hand is a chicken shite asshat that will not reappear until the next opportunity to poke his head in an unrelated thread, ignore all the pending questions in previous threads, and start the shite all over again.
Agreed
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 2:12 pm to Louie T
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that just means he was better than the one before him.
And somehow that is supposed to reflect negatively on Petrino? Christ; he was given one year and our offense significantly improved. What the hell was he supposed to do, hang 70 on everybody or be called a failure?
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 2:17 pm to Ross
Crowton earned his paycheck last year.
Like an earlier poster stated, despite the team being handcuffed by the QB position we were still in a position to win a lot of games. It was the defense that was responsible for the team's demise last year.
Like an earlier poster stated, despite the team being handcuffed by the QB position we were still in a position to win a lot of games. It was the defense that was responsible for the team's demise last year.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 2:23 pm to gatorprincess815
hen Cajun, it appears Gator princess knows football better than you do.
Not that I'm surprised at all.
ETA: If both coaches were to take identical players, IMO Spurrier would destroy Bear. So would have many coacheds in the SEC. The Bear was a average coach once skolly restrictions were in place.
Proof? Bama didn't win shite Bears last three years once the limitiations took place.
Spurrier would have chewed the Bear up and spit him all over the place.
He'd been drinking by the third quarter.
Not that I'm surprised at all.
ETA: If both coaches were to take identical players, IMO Spurrier would destroy Bear. So would have many coacheds in the SEC. The Bear was a average coach once skolly restrictions were in place.
Proof? Bama didn't win shite Bears last three years once the limitiations took place.
Spurrier would have chewed the Bear up and spit him all over the place.
He'd been drinking by the third quarter.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:04 pm to BT4LSU
Anyone that would take Crowton over Petrino is crazy.
When you list the top offensive minds in the game today, Petrino is ALWAYS near the top of the list.
Tom Coughlin (heard of him?) called Petrino the best play-caller he's ever seen.
Crowton is a damn good coach, but he'sa league below Petrino.
When you list the top offensive minds in the game today, Petrino is ALWAYS near the top of the list.
Tom Coughlin (heard of him?) called Petrino the best play-caller he's ever seen.
Crowton is a damn good coach, but he'sa league below Petrino.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:10 pm to Triple6Rebel
quote:Then clearly you are amongst the least knowledgeable football fans in the SEC.
IMO Petrino, I'd never even heard of Crowton til I read this
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:11 pm to SwineFlu
quote:Why, exactly?
Anyone that would take Crowton over Petrino is crazy.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:12 pm to BT4LSU
quote:That's a conservative estimate.
He'd been drinking by the third quarter.
When was the Bear ever sober?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:14 pm to Roaad
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Why, exactly?
Because I could spend the next hour dropping endorsements from every talking head, publication, etc. known to man, branding Petrino one of the greatest offensive minds in the game.
From coaches to players to the media.
Say what you will about him but if you need it explained to you why he is better than Crowton, well, you're obviously the one that needs to get out more.
When Crowton begins being tagged as the "greatest QB developer at any level" or "the greatest playcaller in the game", or when his offensive prowess lands him an NFL HC job (save the smartass remarks), hit me up.
You may want to compare him to Gus Malzahn, 4 years removed from HS, if you want a fair debate.
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 3:27 pm to BT4LSU
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If both coaches were to take identical players, IMO Spurrier would destroy Bear.
And this is why you are the laughing stock of this board. No one but a bitter middle aged Tiger like yourself even try to make this argument.
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The Bear was a average coach once skolly restrictions were in place.
Proof? Bama didn't win shite Bears last three years once the limitiations took place.
He won the SEC in 1981. He won National titles in 1978 and 1979. I am not sure what year they reduced scholarships, or even what that has to do with anything. Bear won by the same rules as everyone else in terms of number of scholarship players, its just that most good players wanted to play for him. Are you trying to perpetuate the lie that Bear had more scholarships at Bama than his protege and whipping boy Charlie Mac did at LSU?
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