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nola000
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Nope.

LSU would be the perfect definition of “New Money”. They are not a multi generational “born elite”. LSU is self made/recent success



Do you know LSU has unclaimed national championships going all the way back to 1908? All of these are national championships awarded by NCAA sanctioned championship selectors.

1908
1935
1936
1962

The ones they claim are

1958
2003
2007
2019

So they could claim a lot more national championships if they wanted to. I'm not saying they should, I think they should claim 1908 for sure but I don't know about the rest. But let's be honest, there's a ton of teams out there that claim national championships they shouldn't and those numbers get bandied about when talking heads put up graphics comparing teams dynasties and talkin about blue blood programs so it's not fair to compare different teams by national championships if it's up to the individual universities to claim them and not some impartial governing body that everyone agrees with.

Since the team that likes to beat their chest the most tnat is not only in LSUs conference but their own division, Alabama, is notorious for claiming anything that even remotely smells like a national championship, I'm going to go ahead and lay claim to the fact that LSU has EIGHT national CHAMPIONSHIPS!
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Old Hellen Yeller
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Someone posted a comparison thread for the past 20 years and I was stunned how well LSU’s resume compared to OSU, USC, Oklahoma, Bama, and Clemson. The first 4 are absolute blue bloods.


Well the differentiator is that blue bloods arent measured in 20 yr periods


SummerOfGeorge
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Since the team that likes to beat their chest the most tnat is not only in LSUs conference but their own division, Alabama, is notorious for claiming anything that even remotely smells like a national championship


Alabama has 12 AP/Coaches Poll National Titles

Alabama has 4 seasons in which they went undefeated and won/tied the Rose Bowl

Alabama has ridiculous, moronic 1941


If Alabama counted national titles the "LSU has EIGHT!" way then Alabama would have 22.


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CajunDan
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
I'd prefer not to be associated with "blue bloods". A large portion of these "fan" bases consist of people with no school, state or regional affiliation of the team they decided to root for. It gives them the fallback of saying things like... "well we're the winningest team in the history of blah blah blah" when they have a down year. I have zero respect for them.
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OldSchoolHorn
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Texas is the guy who won the lottery but blew all of their winnings and now they hang out at the gas station playing video poker and scratching tickets and talking about how much money they used to have.




You misspelled Arkansas.


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Old Money
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
Michigan has 1 title post 1950 and plays a historically weak schedule. Pathetic

Texas is just embarrassing.
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SummerOfGeorge
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Michigan has 1 title post 1950 and plays a historically weak schedule. Pathetic



Yea it makes no sense why they are continually talked about as if they are an elite program.

Their "great history" is much more like Princeton than it is even Nebraska, led alone Alabama, Ohio State, USC, etc.


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jchamil
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How long does N. D., Michigan and UT go without winning another title before they are removed from list?


Why was Texas ever considered a blue blood? I know they have a lot of wins, but they are pretty lacking in national championships


dstone12
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I'd prefer not to be associated with "blue bloods"



Forgive me for assuming, but maybe teams like LSU will change your former opinion of what a blue blood actually is.......something worth watching.


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Old Money
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Why was Texas ever considered a blue blood? I know they have a lot of wins, but they are pretty lacking in national championships


If we nut up and recognize 1908, we have more titles than they do it is ours after all
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FreddieMac
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
This is the greatest college football team in the history of the sport. There is no team that is better than this team. NOT. A. DAMN. ONE.
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Giantkiller
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I just want him to retire lol. Obviously thankful that he brought lsu up but once he went to Alabama he made it his mission to tear our program down. (making LA a primary recruiting ground and fighting for every major recruit LSU had a chance for, forming a team designed to shut down LSU's powerful running attack). So frick him but once he retires my feelings on him will change I'm sure.


I share this sentiment. I was at the Saints game in 2005 when the Dolphins came to Tiger Stadium, and Saban received a standing ovation. When he decided to go to Bama, he knew what he was doing.. And he has been reviled ever since.

Once he retires, I think he'll be remembered here fondly. But that defection will always sting.


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OldSchoolHorn
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Do you know LSU has unclaimed national championships going all the way back to 1908? All of these are national championships awarded by NCAA sanctioned championship selectors.

1908
1935
1936
1962

The ones they claim are

1958
2003
2007
2019

So they could claim a lot more national championships if they wanted to. I'm not saying they should, I think they should claim 1908 for sure but I don't know about the rest. But let's be honest, there's a ton of teams out there that claim national championships they shouldn't and those numbers get bandied about when talking heads put up graphics comparing teams dynasties and talkin about blue blood programs so it's not fair to compare different teams by national championships if it's up to the individual universities to claim them and not some impartial governing body that everyone agrees with.

Since the team that likes to beat their chest the most tnat is not only in LSUs conference but their own division, Alabama, is notorious for claiming anything that even remotely smells like a national championship, I'm going to go ahead and lay claim to the fact that LSU has EIGHT national CHAMPIONSHIPS!



First let's recognize I did not create the metrics for "Blue Blood" status.

If you had a valid point, you would be listed as a blue blood already or at least on the fringe list with Penn State & Tennessee etc.. www.winsipedia.com is a pretty fair quick analysis of where one can validate their thoughts for blue blood consideration.

In the history of time nobility has become a worthless semantic of historical lore. The last true blue blood, the Royal Family is currently being shamed by a defector from its ranks.. IOW, it's no longer meaningful & nothing more than ornament of the past.

Before the blue bloods there was another bygone era of elite status made up of Ivy League & northern powers. Bama, USC, Texas, Nebraska & OU can't join them nor can those early elite programs lose their place in time.

Whatever the new era title becomes (2k Elite, BCS Era, CFP era) will have its own elite class of members that will not be removed nor replaced... a Nebraska, Michigan or Texas won't get auto inclusion into the new era elite any different than what the Ivy's, U of Chicago & Minnesota's experienced in time.

If I'm an LSU fan I don't want anything to do with being a blue blood, being BCS/CFP era Elite is all that matters.



Jake88
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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how about LSU being the only team with enough clout to have 2 losses and still get invited to the 'ship? 

blue blood status was confirmed all the way back in 2007
Yep, back then LSU was recognized as an 800 lb gorilla with a chainsaw for a penis.


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Prof
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
Why do people confuse elite/currently elite with blue blood? No one new can be a blue blood even if they win every Championship played for the next 20 years.


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Tammany Tom
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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Well the differentiator is that blue bloods arent measured in 20 yr periods


No doubt, but... if 20 years goes by and a team hasn’t accomplished anything considered Elite and most Fans no longer really consider that program a threat they really aren’t Elite any longer and are only considered “Blue Blood”, because they once upon a time were really good.

Michigan, Nebraska, and Tennessee are 3 “Blue Blood” programs that are no longer Elite. They are “Has Beens” and most like “Never Will Be Agains”.


Dude88
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
That was because LSU was in the SEC, had a big non-con rout over Va Tech, and had 2 losses in 3 OTs.


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Prof
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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How long does N. D., Michigan and UT go without winning another title before they are removed from list?


Until people figure out what blue blood means and judging by the thread that will take another 150 years.


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Cadello
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
Haters gonna hate.
2019 National Champs.
Well deserved.


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lsufball19
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re: Best Team Ever promulgated LSU to Blue Blood
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You have less national championships than Michigan State


Michigan State has ONEnational title from a major poll. Doesn't surprise me an Alabama fan would agree they have 6 because they decided to claim 6. LSU doesn't claim several titles they could. Does that somehow change how many they actually have? No, it doesn't.

However, if we are to claim only major selectors, as is how it should be, they have one fewer than Nebraska and the same as Texas (Texas only claims 4 as well). What exactly is your definition of blue blood? A program that won a lot in the early part of the 1900s? Michigan has 1 national title since the 40s yet is still considered a "blue blood." This isn't antebellum south or a society based on inherent nobility, it's college football. Being a blue blood in a sport isn't exactly a thing you're born with and can't lose.
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