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re: Best Pitcher in the SEC

Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:27 am to
Nikhazy has like a 1.4 ERA in conference this year as a starter. It would be insane if he was only expected to pitch 2/3 innings max like the rest of these guys
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:35 am to
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Sims has a .50 era!!! .50!!! Averages 2 strikeouts per inning. Sims is the better pitcher and it's not even close
kopps has an era of .76, has more saves, more wins and has pitched more than twice what Simms has. Who knows if Simms would be as good as kopps if he pitched as much as kopps has. Simms has been unhittable for an inning a weekend kopps has been unhittable for 12 innings a weekend. It’s really not that hard to understand
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:57 am to
It’s hard to compare because either way you’re assuming how one would have performed with the others workload. We don’t know that Sims would be as good with Kopps workload, we don’t know that Kopps would be as statistically good or better if he had only been used as a traditional closer like Sims has either.

As I said, Sims is better in every meaningful statistic: SO/9, ERA, Hits/9, HR/9, WHIP. Kopps has pitched more innings and both are very very good. Anything else is speculation.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:58 am to
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kopps has been unhittable for 12 innings a weekend


What? Kopps is the pitcher of the year in my opinion, but you don't need to make things up to justify it. Kopps has 60.1 innings vs 36 innings for Simms. If Simms had pitched 60 innings total, would he have held up? Who knows? Both have 8 saves by the way.

10 wins for a relief pitcher is kind of an odd stat. Usually, good relievers don't come into the game in win situations. The 10 wins is more of a stat that shows how good Arkansas is as a team in crunch time.
Posted by Hogsrunwild
Member since Nov 2006
177 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:03 am to
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The 10 wins is more of a stat that shows how good Arkansas is as a team in crunch time.




I firmly believe that this is partly because of Kopps. When he comes in, the other team kinda knows their scoring is finished for the night and that seems to energize our guys at the plate for some reason. The whole mood of both teams seems to change when he enters the game and that usually is very good news for Arkansas.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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10781 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:03 am to


He throws 3.5 innings a weekend, but sure, let’s round that up to 12.
Posted by Hogsrunwild
Member since Nov 2006
177 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:18 am to
Yeah, rounding is one thing, 12 is kinda a bit much.

So far this series against Florida:

4ip, 13 batters faced, 8k, 1bb, 0hits, 0runs.

For the Tenn series:

6.2ip, 23 batters faced, 6k, 1bb, 3hits, 1run.

That is like 1/3 of the season for Simms in two weekends against two top 10 teams.

The difference is Kopps pitches enough to turn the order over and so they see him multiple times in a weekend. I think most hitters would agree, it is usually easier to hit someone after you have seen them a time or two.

The weekend before against Georgia:
7.1IP, 6H, 1BB, 8k, 29BF, 0runs.

So the last three weekends he has pitched the equivalent of 2 complete games with 22k, 9hit, 3bb, 1run against three pretty salty hitting teams.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:19 am to
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This is a fair post. Sims needs to pitch more. Lemonis holds him for game one/game two save opportunities and has been hesitant to pitch him more than once in a series. He's only done that once all year, against Ole Miss.


Maybe there is a reason he doesn't pitch as much...

If he had Kopps workload would he be as dominant....we don't know if he can handle a season of pitching g 2 games a weekend.

What we do know is Kopps can handle that workload and be dominant doing so.

Because of this Kopps is the clear cut best this year.
Posted by Pig Lebowski
Venice
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:28 am to
I just don't think anyone is winning over Kopps barring a huge slide. He won't be pitching in the tourney so a slide won't happen.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2032 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:05 pm to
Landon Sims not looking good, at all.
Posted by ThundrHawg
The Flagship™
Member since Sep 2010
3208 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:06 pm to
He's ahead in every meaningful statistic tho!!!
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:12 pm to

He just won the Psych Young
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4658 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:09 pm to
Yea that Sims guys is good
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4658 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:15 pm to
Feel like this needs another bump
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:20 pm to
You obviously haven’t seen Kopps pitch
Posted by hoginlr8080
Little Rock
Member since Sep 2013
79 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:26 pm to
Guys are going back to the dugout perplexed from one pitch with different location. Ive also never understood how he stands so weird on the mound. Like he can fall on his butt at anytime
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13230 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:30 pm to
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Ive also never understood how he stands so weird on the mound.

Beet juice. Listen to Acri and Wess Moore on The Buzz talk about it. They'll get you all learned up.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 6:20 am to
I really think this thread can be closed now....just like the case for the best pitcher in the SEC was closed last night.

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