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Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:40 pm to dallasga6
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:40 pm to dallasga6
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frickina....Anyone who doesn’t understand that each long time rivalry brings with it a history, a set of traditions, a set of shared experiences passed down across generations, and that each rivalry exists in a zone of its own, apart from the regular season itself, doesn’t get college football.
Yet the best rivalry in this country Army vs. Navy is played outside of the confines of a conference. The Commander in Chief Trophy is played by three schools over a large geographic area, none of which are in the same conference. Food for thought.
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Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:40 pm to WDE24
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Then why propose an alternative that will be more unfair annually?
We went over this ten pages ago dude.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:41 pm to therick711
quote:We could trade UT and UGA for Arky and LSU.
Now if we can just move UT to the West, Arky to the East and let AU and UGA figure out what to do about the DSOR, we'd all be set for a 6-2.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:41 pm to WDE24
Arkansas is the biggest winner in that scenario, they own all those West teams and have good success against LSU.
Auburn is the big loser with bitter rivals and better programs UGA and Bama in the same division.
Auburn is the big loser with bitter rivals and better programs UGA and Bama in the same division.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:42 pm to BrerTiger
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Arky and USC was a forced marriage.
Sounds like another forced marriage.
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Speaking of Arky, most sane LSU fans can see that Florida is a game that our fanbase gets way more excited about than say... Arkansas
I would get just as excited for playing UGA than I do for UF. My favorite game was 2003 LSU/UGA.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:42 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:And your only answer was, over 12 years it would balance out. Which seems ridiculous on its face, but I am open to listening to why that matters.
We went over this ten pages ago dude.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:42 pm to Tiger Authority
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Not according to half my family. UF far and away trumps all the others. And GTech is just that annoying instate team seeking validation. Very different from Auburn, which is just based on the number of times played and to a degree, proximity. Simple fact of the matter is that UF is not even remotely on the same tier of "rivalry" as AU.
this is what you actually said alluding to how UGA/AU wasn't important to us. the bolded part is what was so stupid
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:43 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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why should we? looks like our 4 programs are the ones in the position to say "deal with it"
It's true.
As long as those 4 schools stick together (and they will) this is always and forevermore going to be a nonnegotiable.
Those four schools will never give up their rivalries and would sooner secede and form a new conference than give them up.
This isn't new. In fact, it's ancient news.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:43 pm to Breesus2Jimmy
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rkansas is the biggest winner in that scenario, they own all those West teams and have good success against LSU.
Auburn is the big loser with bitter rivals and better programs UGA and Bama in the same division.
We already play UGA and BAMA every year... We swap LSU for Florida... In fact our schedule probable gets EASIER because we swap Arkie for UT..
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:44 pm to WDE24
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And your only answer was, over 12 years it would balance out. Which seems ridiculous on its face, but I am open to listening to why that matters.
Okay, I'll go over this one last time.
Playing every team the same amount in the other division over the course of a set period of time, on a rotating basis, is an alternative that is more fair than that of a system where certain teams always play certain teams that are good while others always get to play teams that are bad.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:44 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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this is what you actually said alluding to how UGA/AU wasn't important to us. the bolded part is what was so stupid
FWIW I grew up in Alabama and know hundreds of people that went to Auburn or go there and I myself grew up as an Auburn fan...none of them would consider UGA a rival.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:44 pm to therick711
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Yet the best rivalry in this country Army vs. Navy is played outside of the confines of a conference. The Commander in Chief Trophy is played by three schools over a large geographic area, none of which are in the same conference. Food for thought.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:44 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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this is what you actually said alluding to how UGA/AU wasn't important to us. the bolded part is what was so stupid
The only Georgia fan I know personally, feels the way that the bolded caption reads. Obviously a sample of one is no good, but I guess I just don't get why that is stupid or why you are posting it in this thread.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:45 pm to BrerTiger
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Those four schools will never give up their rivalries and would sooner secede and form a new conference than give them up.
No they wouldn't. You are giving them way too much credit. It's about money. They flex their muscle here because they can, but if it was opt out and keep the rivalries or stay and rotate, they're staying.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:45 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:Ok, why? Are we going to give SEC Championships every 12 years? Is 12 years of theoretical equity better than annual balance and fairness?
Okay, I'll go over this one last time.
Playing every team the same amount in the other division over the course of a set period of time, on a rotating basis, is an alternative that is more fair than that of a system where certain teams always play certain teams that are good while others always get to play teams that are bad.
Deal with the reality of the 6-2 and not just the math.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:46 pm to BrerTiger
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It's true.
As long as those 4 schools stick together (and they will) this is always and forevermore going to be a nonnegotiable.
Those four schools will never give up their rivalries and would sooner secede and form a new conference than give them up.
This isn't new. In fact, it's ancient news.
You don't need all four. Just two. If you placate Bama and UT by moving UT to the West, they would sell out the other two. They aren't married on this issue, they just think they are because they both have a rivalry game they want. You take care of one half of those four, you have a coalition to cram whatever plan you want down on the other two.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:47 pm to Tiger Authority
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Asking a rhetorical question isn't passively aggressively personally attacking a person.
It was a rhetorical question that expressed your negative feelings and resentment towards an opinion in an unassertive and passive way.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:49 pm to Tiger Authority
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They flex their muscle here because they can, but if it was opt out and keep the rivalries or stay and rotate, they're staying.
How do you know about the mindset of a school's values or agenda when you haven't been a fan of the school?
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:50 pm to Bellabama
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How do you know about the mindset of a school's values or agenda when you haven't been a fan of the school?
Well I grew up an Auburn fan. Auburn isn't leaving the SEC over the UGA game...
There.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 5:50 pm to therick711
florida beating our asses for 20 years doesn't minimize a rivalry as old and balanced as Georgia vs Auburn. it's obviously important if our universities are fighting this hard to keep it. GT, AU, and UF are all on the same tier. people may hate other teams for different reasons but they all are on the same tier. GT is our instate rivalry, UF is an enormous party where recently UF had balanced the series and AU is an old game going back to our first season and still being this damn close.
my point is some LSU fans trying to act like this rivalry isn't important because their buddies said so and they don't wanna be stuck with florida is silly. it's very stupid to say our rivalry with AU is no where near UF. unless of course you think football began in 1990.
my point is some LSU fans trying to act like this rivalry isn't important because their buddies said so and they don't wanna be stuck with florida is silly. it's very stupid to say our rivalry with AU is no where near UF. unless of course you think football began in 1990.
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