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BCSGuru says no rematch
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:55 am
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In a stunning turn of events, Oklahoma State will face LSU inthe BCS Championship Game on Jan. 9, not Alabama, as had been widely believed until the wee hours Saturday night.
The final BCS Standings will be close between OSU and Alabama, with the computers unanimously locking in the CowboysatNo.2 and Alabama at No. 3. And then it would be up to the voters to render their final verdict.
More of them will still have Alabama at No. 2, in both the coaches and Harris polls, but OSU's edge in the computers will be enough to overcome the Crimson Tide's advantage in the two human polls.
A few things that happened tonight turned the tide:
* Oklahoma State's impressive victory over Oklahoma was a resounding statement. The Cowboys proved that notonly they could score, but they could play sound defense and cause game-changing turnovers.
* Virginia Tech's blowout loss against Clemson removed a direct competitor for the precious No. 2 votes, notto mention the all-important No. 3 votes. Remember, OSU was No. 5 in both pollscominginto Saturday night's game.
* CBS's shameless and disingenuous cheerleading for Alabama ultimately will prove to have done more harm to the Tide than help. If CBS had done nothing, it's likely it wouldn'thavecausedenoughvoters to have such a revulsion to decline an LSU-Alabama rematch.Whereas Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson definitely made the difference in Florida's favor in 2006, the opposite must be said in this case.
* Finally, the fact that the only other worthy1-lossteams: Alabama, Stanford and Boise State all failed to win their respective conferences bolstered OSU's case. Even though the BCS never made that a requirement to reach the title game, many voters would like to consider that a prerequisite.
So that's the shocking conclusion to this strange regular season that really proved that LSU is unquestionably the best team inthe land. But because of the system that we have, the Tigers will have to play one more game to make it official. They're probably glad that it won't be the Crimson Tide.
There will be more drama beyond the unveiling of the participants in the BCS title game. For more analysis - and the BCSBowlProjections,check tomorrow morning at SB Nation.
Here's the projected final BCS Standings:
1. LSU, 2. Oklahoma State, 3. Alabama, 4. Stanford,5. Oregon,6. Boise State, 7. Arkansas, 8. Kansas State, 9. SouthCarolina,10. Wisconsin,11. Baylor, 12. Virginia Tech, 13. Michigan, 14. Houston, 15. Oklahoma, 16. Michigan State, 17. Clemson, 18. TCU, 19. Georgia, 20. Nebraska.
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Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to TTsTowel
Probably could have posted that in the thread 3 or four down
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to TTsTowel
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:56 am to TTsTowel
So, he is full of shite and is guessing like the rest of us.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:57 am to TTsTowel
Quit being obsessed with Alabama and quit the subtle flames. There are three other threads on this. It's not going to change 42-14.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:57 am to TTsTowel
South Carolina!!!!
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am to ever43
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So, he is full of shite and is guessing like the rest of us
I want to know how accurate he has been in the past.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:58 am to TTsTowel
He is guessing at what the voters will vote. Nobody knows how it will turn out until we see the coaches and harris poll tomorrow.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 am to CapstoneGrad06
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quit
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being obsessed with
LSU ...
I believe they started the "9-6" gig, and now Bama fans are using it against their opponents ...
Real original
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 am to WoWyHi
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I want to know how accurate he has been in the past.
I want to say he's been pretty reliable, but i'm not sure how he figured this out.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:59 am to ThaKaptin
Per bcsknowhow
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Fourteen weeks, and there seems no quelling of the debate and uproar about who deserves what in the college football landscape. That being said, however, the 2011 regular season is complete, and now our attention must turn to the BCS standings and bowls to be announced tomorrow.
The thing that is causing the most debate, of course, is the possible rematch awaiting the country in the BCS title game. And for those who are against it, do be prepared to weather the storm of the rematch, but a swaying of opinion has occurred, and for what it’s worth, Oklahoma State should be on its way to the BCS title game.
Alabama will just miss out on its chance at a rematch, finishing at No. 3, with Stanford just behind the Cowboys at No. 4.
So. Why? It comes down to persuasion. Virginia Tech needs to be replaced on ballots. Oklahoma State whipped Oklahoma up and down the field. Houston is no longer a factor. Boise State can be forgotten. Oklahoma State stands as the team most of the country (save the Alabama faithful) wants to see get a chance.
The pollsters can make up the difference. And I believe they will. There’s no need for Oklahoma State to leap Alabama. They just need to be very close. And they will be. Oklahoma State can make up some distance in the computers.
Of course, this is a simple projection, and nothing about it is absolute. There are, however, other components which are more absolute when the BCS pairings are announced tomorrow.
Oregon, as champion of the Pac-12, is headed to the Rose Bowl to face Wisconsin, the Big Ten’s conference champion.
Clemson is on its way to the Orange Bowl as the ACC champion, as the ACC is bound to the bowl unless the ACC champ is playing in the national title game.
West Virginia will likely be the recipient of the Big East’s BCS bowl bid. After sharing the regular season crown in the conference with Cincinnati and Louisville, the Mountaineers will assuredly win the tiebreaker for the conference’s bid by finishing highest among the three teams in the final BCS rankings.
TCU, if it can finish ahead of the highest ranking Big East team and ahead of Southern Miss, which is likely, and vault into the top 16 will receive a BCS bowl bid as the highest-ranking non-AQ conference champion that ranks ahead of a AQ conference champion in the top 16.
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Oklahoma State will be assured of a BCS bid. But will it be in the title game? If these projections hold up, it will be. Stanford at No. 4, will not be afforded an automatic bid to the BCS as it was last season at No. 4, but will likely be a very eligible team for any BCS bowl to select.
Boise State, Kansas State, Michigan, Houston and Oklahoma will all also likely be eligible come tomorrow. Who will take those remaining slots?Michigan is likely to cross the top 14 threshold to get into the BCS, but TCU is likely to miss out. Check out our BCS Bowl projections here.
That’s the bowl picture — it’s messy at best — but the BCS standings shouldn’t be so difficult to digest when they’re released tomorrow.
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Remember, we’ll be here to take you through all of it, starting with tomorrow’s releases of the human polls, computer rankings and BCS. Follow along all day tomorrow @BCSKnowHow and right here to stay up to the second with projections, mathematical breakdowns of all of the computers, human polls and everything in between. Then follow along this week as we break down scenarios and implications.
Got all that? Hope so.
Here’s what the BCS standing will likely look like when they are released tomorrow at 8:15 p.m. ET on ESPN:
Projected BCS Standings – BCS Week Eight (December 4th)
Rank Team
1 LSU Tigers
2 Oklahoma State Cowboys
3 Alabama Crimson Tide
4 Stanford Cardinal
5 Boise State Broncos
6 Arkansas Razorbacks
7 Oregon Ducks
8 Kansas State Wildcats
9 Wisconsin Badgers
10 South Carolina Gamecocks
11 Baylor Bears
12 Oklahoma Sooners
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:00 am to ThaKaptin
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He is guessing at what the voters will vote. Nobody knows how it will turn out until we see the coaches and harris poll tomorrow.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:01 am to HoLeInOnEr05
Yes, LSU fans were the first to use a game's score as a retort. 
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:01 am to HoLeInOnEr05
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I believe they started the "9-6" gig, and now Bama fans are using it against their opponents ...
LSU hardly invented waving the score in the opposition's face...
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:02 am to HMTVBrian2
The BCS Guru is GUESSING. He knows there is about a 50/50 shot and if he is right it will give him legitimacy over guys like Jerry Palm.
No way anybody can know for sure right now if Ok State gets more than 25% of the vote; it will be very close.
No way anybody can know for sure right now if Ok State gets more than 25% of the vote; it will be very close.
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:02 am to medtiger
Who fricking knows 
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:04 am to ThaKaptin
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He is guessing at what the voters will vote. Nobody knows how it will turn out until we see the coaches and harris poll tomorrow.
No way to know.
What is to know is this:
1- OSU put an arse whopping on OU and won the BIG 12.
2- Bama was absent on championship week
3- Computers love Okie St and will even more now
4- VT loss helps OSU and provides nothing for Bama
Soo.. how comfortable are you with last weeks margin?
We will see.. LSU fans are sleeping great tonight!
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:04 am to TTsTowel
It's like Christmas Eve except for Bama fans it's either the greatest gift ever or a pile of shite
Posted on 12/4/11 at 1:04 am to WoWyHi
quote:Accurate enough to be considered a guru....
I want to know how accurate he has been in the past.
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