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re: Barry Odom
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:08 am to Pharmdbamafan
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:08 am to Pharmdbamafan
You can’t take your indoctrinated political blinders off for a few moments to understand the point here?
He lost the fanbase, and not the wish washy types who ebb and flow, but the diligent supporters. You can argue with me or not, but I’m in a position to know and you aren’t. He lost the money fans. That’s a bridge too far. I’ve already stated I think he’s a good coach, and it is possible that he would have turned it around. We had momentum coming into the season, and it was all squandered. It was the right decision. It doesn’t mean it will work out, but it’s going to be infinitely easier for a new coach to gain traction with the fans than him to regain what he had lost. Simple as that
He lost the fanbase, and not the wish washy types who ebb and flow, but the diligent supporters. You can argue with me or not, but I’m in a position to know and you aren’t. He lost the money fans. That’s a bridge too far. I’ve already stated I think he’s a good coach, and it is possible that he would have turned it around. We had momentum coming into the season, and it was all squandered. It was the right decision. It doesn’t mean it will work out, but it’s going to be infinitely easier for a new coach to gain traction with the fans than him to regain what he had lost. Simple as that
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:11 am to Pharmdbamafan
If you’ll look back at your posts, before I posted anything you had posted:
“ After that he inherited an absolute no win situation at social justice U. Maybe someone from the area will chime in, but I thought the players really seemed to love him. Personally, I feel like he overachieved given his situation.”
and
“ It wasn’t SJWU when he played there in the 90s. He probably wasn’t ready for a head coaching job, but he was better than you deserved. BTW, I live in MO, and there are plenty of mouth-breathing cousin frickers here too. I don’t know who Mizzou will ultimately get, but it will be after Arkansas, Ole Miss, and every other decent job takes first pick.”
So I’m not sure why you expected civility. Mizzou doesn’t get much civility on the rant. So I don’t give much. If you start with the above shite, I will post shite to you. Science. And finally, the Mensa comment wasn’t even directed to you.
“ After that he inherited an absolute no win situation at social justice U. Maybe someone from the area will chime in, but I thought the players really seemed to love him. Personally, I feel like he overachieved given his situation.”
and
“ It wasn’t SJWU when he played there in the 90s. He probably wasn’t ready for a head coaching job, but he was better than you deserved. BTW, I live in MO, and there are plenty of mouth-breathing cousin frickers here too. I don’t know who Mizzou will ultimately get, but it will be after Arkansas, Ole Miss, and every other decent job takes first pick.”
So I’m not sure why you expected civility. Mizzou doesn’t get much civility on the rant. So I don’t give much. If you start with the above shite, I will post shite to you. Science. And finally, the Mensa comment wasn’t even directed to you.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:29 am to JesusQuintana
You are the one who dropped all the political references. Boomers, Trump, etc. I never would have brought it up, but it obviously strikes a nerve with you.
I know lots of booster money was gone after the incident, but the degree to which it recovered is unknown to me. I do know many teachers lost jobs, you lost 6k students in total enrollment, and had millions of dollars in budget shortfalls as a result. My tax dollars help pay for this state school, so I think I’m entitled to an opinion.
I can understand he lost the fan base and you can agree with the decision to fire him. Again, no problem. I am simply telling you that the enrollment numbers are down and have not recovered as you have stated so many times.
Who could you hire that would be an improvement? Look at A&M. That’s a coach with a national title getting blown the frick out. Look at Arkansas. Look at Ole Miss. All tragedies. You don’t have the money or appeal to hire a big name, so why are expectations so high?
I know lots of booster money was gone after the incident, but the degree to which it recovered is unknown to me. I do know many teachers lost jobs, you lost 6k students in total enrollment, and had millions of dollars in budget shortfalls as a result. My tax dollars help pay for this state school, so I think I’m entitled to an opinion.
I can understand he lost the fan base and you can agree with the decision to fire him. Again, no problem. I am simply telling you that the enrollment numbers are down and have not recovered as you have stated so many times.
Who could you hire that would be an improvement? Look at A&M. That’s a coach with a national title getting blown the frick out. Look at Arkansas. Look at Ole Miss. All tragedies. You don’t have the money or appeal to hire a big name, so why are expectations so high?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:30 am to the808bass
“I root for Mizzou” but in the times I’m not I log onto message boards and bash the school because of five year old political grudges.
Right...
Right...
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:37 am to the808bass
Agreed. I could have worded things much more civilly. I know you must be frustrated with your team, and I can definitely feel your pain. The Shula years were hard to stomach, but I never quit supporting them.
I am still pissed Mizzou went down the road they did. I wasn’t lying about rooting for them, and it pains me to see the aftermath of bullshite political brainwashing. The SJWU comment might sound harsh, but it happened and the people running shite there let it get out of hand. I think society is waking up, but it is taking awhile.
I am still pissed Mizzou went down the road they did. I wasn’t lying about rooting for them, and it pains me to see the aftermath of bullshite political brainwashing. The SJWU comment might sound harsh, but it happened and the people running shite there let it get out of hand. I think society is waking up, but it is taking awhile.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:45 am to Pharmdbamafan
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You are the one who dropped all the political references
You started your OP with that bullshite. Stop it
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Who could you hire that would be an improvement?
Who could we hire that could be better than a .500 record after 4 years? frick, a lot of coaches. The one we had before him won 62% of his games and had 5 10 win seasons in his last 9 years here. We can certainly do much better.
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You don’t have the money or appeal to hire a big name, so why are expectations so high?
Lol, what do you consider high expectations? We don’t want to lose to fricking Wyoming and Vanderbilt. We don’t want to lose to Kentucky every fricking year. Nobody is talking National Titles here bub. We expect better than what he did which is entirely reasonable and realistic. We had a pretty easy schedule. If Barry had went 8-4 (hell, probably even 7-5) there is no way he would have been fired.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:07 am to JesusQuintana
My social justice comment wasn’t political it was societal. It happened and it hurt Mizzou in many ways. I don’t know what you want me to stop. Bringing it up?
I agree, you should always beat Vandy. But with 13th ranked SEC recruiting classes that may not always happen. Why are they so low? For all the reasons I’ve just discussed plus others. It’s hard to recruit to Mizzou.
You have to have talent to compete. Maybe Odom wasn’t the guy, but with the current state of things it will be hard to hire someone who will instantly make your program win 8-10 games, especially with FL, GA, and TN improving.
Good luck going forward. Maybe you can name a few more buildings after Kroenke or his kids and he will come through for Urban Meyer with a 20 mil/yr contract paid until 2030.
I agree, you should always beat Vandy. But with 13th ranked SEC recruiting classes that may not always happen. Why are they so low? For all the reasons I’ve just discussed plus others. It’s hard to recruit to Mizzou.
You have to have talent to compete. Maybe Odom wasn’t the guy, but with the current state of things it will be hard to hire someone who will instantly make your program win 8-10 games, especially with FL, GA, and TN improving.
Good luck going forward. Maybe you can name a few more buildings after Kroenke or his kids and he will come through for Urban Meyer with a 20 mil/yr contract paid until 2030.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 2:27 am to Pharmdbamafan
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social justice U
175 years and one small group of students who are all long gone define the University of Missouri.
I actually think this is consistent with how southerners think on many levels.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 2:37 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:19 am to OleManDixon
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is this a serious question?
What? Is your question serious?
It's not like St Louis is right next door to Columbus and the state produces less than 5 or 6 blue chips per year.You'd figure with so few that the state university would be able to zero in on at least a few of em and it's not like OSU heavily recruited the area pre Urban.
Usually there's some type of connection on the staff...kinda like how Bama was pulling out guys from DC because of Locksley.
Hell,OSU isn't pulling out blue chips out of Kentucky or Indiana that often and both states are much closer and produce almost the same amount of blue chips as Missouri.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 3:47 pm
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