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re: Bama ranked 20th most valuable Basketball program in the country
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:01 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:01 pm to pvilleguru
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You did that yourself.
Yea, those numbers alone proved that in 2012-2013 (an underachieving year that wasn't very good either and included home losses to a bad Dayton team, Mercer and Tulane) our average butt in seat attendance was at least 6,500-7,000.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 1:03 pm
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:03 pm to Tuscaloosa
Surprised Florida is so low at 41
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:07 pm to CockHolliday
Everyone is surprised. Something is weird about this list but who cares. It's just some off-season list.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But we aren't talking about ticket sales, we are talking about butts in seats
Ah, so real people and not the numbers claimed by Tusc. We are on to something here
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icket sales include the Tide Pride donation set up. That hasn't existed for forever.
Basketball ticket inclusion for premium seating has gone on for quite some time. This is info relayed to me by someone who has multiple seats(regular, Suite, Club(or whatever you call them). I believe he told me at least in the early 90's. I havent heard of anything from him in the 80's about it, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen. I have no reason to doubt the man. He is buddies with Bill Battle. I know this for a fact. Quite connected with the program. even introduced me to Saban in 2009
And I am not talking about buying tickets to get your points up. I am talking about tickets being forced to buy together.
Auburn does it to. Not on a huge scale, but they have a certain package, that they force you to buy . I believe you have to purchase baseball as well
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I get what you were doing,
merely stating some realities that happened...
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:10 pm to NYCAuburn
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I havent heard of anything from him in the 80's about it, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen.
Tide Pride didn't exist until the late 80s.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:10 pm to roadGator
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Everyone is surprised. Something is weird about this list but who cares. It's just some off-season list.
Well, look at the date. What is today?
You're welcome, road.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:11 pm to NYCAuburn
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merely stating some realities that happened...
That's fine, it was an extreme to point of out Tuscaloosa's trying to sneak in ticket sold figures as butts in seats figures. I get it, it was well played to start.
However, the 4K number is for the 3rd worst season in school history with a coach people already wanted fired. It was the perfect cocktail for total apathy. Again, much like 2012 Auburn.
I don't think the norm is 12K a game, but it certainly isn't 4K.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:11 pm to craigbiggio
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So Louisville is tFlagship of Kentucky?
Nah, Kentucky just decided to keep it classy and not sell its soul to KFC.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea, those numbers alone proved that in 2012-2013 (an underachieving year that wasn't very good either and included home losses to a bad Dayton team, Mercer and Tulane) our average butt in seat attendance was at least 6,500-7,000.
there are also other statements that say the 12-13 year was also on a 25% increase over previous years.
And now the number has risen to 6500-7000. For the "4k" year, it was actually under 4k, FWIW.
Not sure how <4k + (38k/(either 18 or 21) = 6500-7000.
So lets take the 12-13 season and try to extrapolate. 4k + (38k/18)= 6100 for the high side.
So with two sets of data now.
4k actual 11,159 claimed
6100 actual 12,484 claimed.
So with two years known, they are around less than 50% attendance.
Going further we could use the "25%" increase from previous years and it looks the same as well
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:16 pm to pvilleguru
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Tide Pride didn't exist until the late 80s.
I wasnt talking about tide pride
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That arena is a total boondoggle isn't it? Something about sponsorship agreements not being enough to cover debt payments? I remember reading an article about it a year or so ago and it sounded like a total nightmare.
It was built with the intention of drawing an NBA team. That's the premise it was sold to the taxpayers with. Then UofL managed to get sole scheduling rights, eliminated the annual non-UofL UK game in Louisville, and had people like Rick Pitino actively campaign against an NBA team coming here. So of course they've passed. They have also refused to bid for any SEC event like the SEC Tournament which they could've landed. So the city is losing money and they're hoping it defaults so UofL can purchase the arena for dirt cheap when it defaults.
Also since its been such a clusterfrick, it's hurting the other major Universities in the state trying to get state bonding for campus improvements.
But between that arena deal and having everything on campus named after Yum Brands (KFC, Taco Bell, etc) they make money.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:19 pm to CockHolliday
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Surprised Florida is so low at 41
Me too
Miami and Florida St are actually in striking distance of Florida and we suck at basketball most years.
This list just makes the Big 12 even more foolish for not taking Louisville.
About Duke Attendance
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Duke University's Cameron Indoor Stadium, the crown jewel of college basketball's classic venues, was conceived on the back of a matchbook cover in 1935 and renovated in the late 1980s at a cost of $2 million. Cameron underwent a series of improvements over the summer of 2009 to enhance the gameday experience, while also retaining the revered qualities of the facility now in its 75th year as the home of the Blue Devils.
They refuse to build to new stadium for historical reasons.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:24 pm to NYCAuburn
You took an article which was written for the sole purpose of pointing off how bad attendance had fallen off in CAG's last years and are presenting that as the norm. The article was written to point out how unprecedented the bad attendance had become. You're also arguing with people that have been going to multiple Bama basketball games for years and see the crowds with their own eyes. In a typical year, every single section is at least 80% full at nearly every Alabama home game against an SEC opponent. With a seating capacity of 15,300, that puts home attendance at most SEC games at about 12,000. That includes 2 or 3 home games each year where you can barely find an empty seat anywhere as well as lackluster home crowds when only 9,000 or 10,000 fans show up.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:28 pm to NYCAuburn
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38k/18
We played 16 home games, so more like 6,300. And that was a bad season in which people tuned out after about 5 weeks.
So, for the downfall of Grant Ball, 2012-2013 and 2013-2014, we averaged 6,250 and 4,000. I would venture that the 2 years before, the NIT run and the NCAAT year, we averaged 7,500 and 8,500 (or more). I would venture to say this season we averaged about 8,500-10,000 based on the idea that we had 4,000 a game for OOC games, 4 sell outs (counting 90% capacity) and 5 conference games at about 66% capacity (roughly 10K).
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:28 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:So an average of more than 4000. Ban yourself.
So with two sets of data now.
4k actual 11,159 claimed
6100 actual 12,484 claimed.
So with two years known, they are around less than 50% attendance.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:33 pm to Patton
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What's insane about this list is UCLA @ 22.
Yeah I don't get this list...Bama is ranked higher than UCLA
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:42 pm to 14&Counting
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Yeah I don't get this list...Bama is ranked higher than UCLA
UCLA had John Wooden and that's it. They are not a basketball school despite that history.
Their fan support is nominal compared to real blue blood programs. Their renovated Pauley Pavillion had one sellout last year, the UK game.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:43 pm to memphisplaya
Oh damn it. I got got? 
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
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we're the 3rd winningest basketball program in the SEC, behind Kentucky and Arkansas (about 5 wins behind Arkansas all time) although we have 102 seasons played vs. only 92 for Arkansas.
FIFY
Posted on 4/1/16 at 2:01 pm to Tuscaloosa
Ludicrous
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