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re: Bama passed Texas in teh recruiting rankings

Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:24 am to
Posted by bamaboy87
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:24 am to
William Ming...now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Whatever happened with him?
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:24 am to
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I think this is a huge reason for disparity on the field as well. Honestly, how many of those kids, if the classes at Bama, LSU, Arky, UF Aub etc. all filled up do you think would end up at a Michigan State or a Purdue?
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Explain, I don't understand.


I believe he is saying that if we would only sign a few players the northern schools would have a chance to get the better leftovers.
Posted by bamaboy87
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:24 am to
Maybe. That or eBay
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:27 am to
William Ming...now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Whatever happened with him?

I'm assuming he's still on scholly???
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:28 am to
I think its too soon for Smith and Patrick. Love, I don't see leaving.

Have many highly rated WR's with a few more coming in, some of the 2/3 yr guys can't be happy about playing time. Still a possibility all WR from this yr will return.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:30 am to
Has there ever been a bigger 5-star bust than Tyler Love?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:30 am to
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I'm assuming he's still on scholly???



If he is, it won't be for much longer. I have a feeling we will see 2 or 3 greyshirts and one or two more JUCO casualties for this class. I just can't see 15 guys transferring or going on medical hardship. Maybe 8 or 9.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:33 am to
I'll admit Saban stretches this rule as much as anybody, but most schools use this same practice to some degree.

If you want to win, you need as many good players as possible. There are always going to be injuries, frick up players, and academic casualties.

Nobody that does what they're supposed to do ever gets pushed out. Saban awards scholarships to walk-ons just about every year. These walk-ons are less talented than most of the guys he gets accused of "forcing out".

I see no problem with yanking the scholarships of those that aren't putting for the effort on the practice field or in the classroom.

If you're going to argue that Saban is just over-signing and cutting the bad players, then you need to look at the talent level of people that have transferred and compare them to the walk-ons who have been awarded scholarships.
This post was edited on 1/6/11 at 10:44 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:38 am to
Teague, good point.

Never understood why people think an athletic scholarship is a tenured position.
Posted by BamaFan21
Huntsville, Alabama
Member since Feb 2007
534 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 10:40 am to
Just an observation but has anyone else noticed that USC has 22 commits but only has 15 schollys for this year. They must have alot of open slots from players leaving...........I know, off topic, not SEC.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:13 am to
"Never understood why people think an athletic scholarship is a tenured position."

maybe if you had ever signed an athletic scholarship somewhere you would. scholarships can not be reduced based upon athletic performance. off field situations for sure can lead to this but performance or lack there of NO.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20031 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:18 am to
A rule that would ban this would be bad. I don't want to be saddle with a bad apple (not saying these kids are).
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25213 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:25 am to
Sorry had to do something real in life for a while.

When you sign an athletic scholarship, it should be a binding contract between the university and the student for 4 (5) years.

When those guys are transferring to schools like North Dakota State, they are doing so because there are roster spots open. My argument is that if schools didn't over recruit, those kids would never have to go to schools like those mentioned above, and could go to other BCS conferences and play meaningful minutes.

Now, in no way am I saying that this is only the school's fault, the athlete has to be to blame as well (why would you go to a school with 5 stud RBs like USC or OSU when you could go to Indiana/Vandy and be seen from day 1 as the premier guy.

Now, I'm not sure about if these kids "qualify" and if that is the problem then that is a whole new issue
Posted by rolltide0692
Gulfport, MS
Member since Jan 2009
761 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:31 am to
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Adrian Hubbard, mark that shite down.

Also, if Scott were to transfer, wouldn't he have done it before the bowl?


Adrian Hubbard is just a freshman, why would he transfer? If he can bulk up to play DE, I think there would be a spot open. Right now there is really just Square and Sentimore there for next year. He could make an impact there sooner than at Jack LB if he has a solid spring IMO
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6934 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:34 am to
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Adrian Hubbard


Has apparently been showing his arse, almost led to a beatdown from teammates. Take it FWIW, but some think he's on the list to go.
Posted by rolltide0692
Gulfport, MS
Member since Jan 2009
761 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 11:49 am to
In that case it would be understandable. I was looking at it more from a talent perspective. I think there are others who would be much more likely to transfer
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 12:01 pm to
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scholarships can not be reduced based upon athletic performance. off field situations for sure can lead to this but performance or lack there of NO.



I guess you don't know that all athletic scholarships are given on a one year basis and renewed after that. Obviously, they should almost always be renewed, but they don't have to be.

What happens if you're on an academic scholarship and make bad grades?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40424 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 12:02 pm to
Baseball schollys get taken away all the time for lack of production. Not an unusual circumstance.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 12:04 pm to
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When you sign an athletic scholarship, it should be a binding contract between the university and the student for 4 (5) years.



I disagree. Why should they get to keep a scholarship if they're frick ups? You don't get to keep an academic scholarship if you're a frick up.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20857 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 12:16 pm to
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