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re: Bama fans, without referencing prior success, why do you believe you win this year?
Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:51 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:51 pm to narddogg81
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Our offense is as good or better than yours.
True.
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Our defense is better
Probably true.
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especially pass rush
Patently false. You guys really need to stop saying this.
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the secondary
True, but it's close.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:58 pm to Bill_M
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Referencing past success is just acknowledging Saban's unprecedented success in big games. It is just as tangible as any other metric, maybe more so
I think the point of the thread is to look at what the teams have this year. Saban's big game success would be included in his coaching ability. So coach vs coach. Yes. If you are wanting to just say "Saban has beat you the last 8 times he is better" then no.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:00 pm to bamasgot13
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You think WRs are even? Citing what, besides fanhood?
LSU's wide receivers, as a whole, have more receptions, more yards, more TDs and a higher YPC.
If you want to do the 4 primary for Bama and the 4 primary for LSU (which would include TE Moss) its almost dead even:
Bama: 142 receptions for 2,213 yards and 24 TDs.
LSU: 141 receptions for 2,147 yards and 26 TDs.
Bama fans need to accept that LSU's group of pass catchers is right there with Bama's.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:01 pm to narddogg81
I’m curious about this Bama pass rush narrative — LSU just managed AU’s D-line, and in terms of comparing the two teams... I think LSU leads sack stat at 20 vs 19 for Bama (both teams relying heavily on LBs and blitz for pressure).
Worth noting that comparing D-lines & WRs to each other is pointless because they won’t be on the field at the same time as each other...
As far as matchups that matter — neither D backfield is equipped to contain either team’s receiving options. LSU has a much larger advantage at interior DL with Shelvin than Bama does with edge rushers when comparing to respective O-lines.
My concern is I just don’t see how LSU can cover the middle of the field all game, but one could say the same for Bama.
Also watching for LSU red-zone offense because I know Bama likes to keep things in front & minimize explosive plays.
Worth noting that comparing D-lines & WRs to each other is pointless because they won’t be on the field at the same time as each other...
As far as matchups that matter — neither D backfield is equipped to contain either team’s receiving options. LSU has a much larger advantage at interior DL with Shelvin than Bama does with edge rushers when comparing to respective O-lines.
My concern is I just don’t see how LSU can cover the middle of the field all game, but one could say the same for Bama.
Also watching for LSU red-zone offense because I know Bama likes to keep things in front & minimize explosive plays.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:21 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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I’m curious about this Bama pass rush narrative
Just my opinion from watching and hearing Saban talk. The first part of the season they were trying to protect the two freshmen linebackers. Saban's defense is a base two-gap 3-4. In this scheme your defensive ends are basically defensive tackles and your strong and weak linebackers are your defensive ends. But instead of them going after the qb they were playing contain trying to help the two freshmen middle linebackers get some playing time. Now he is starting to let his defense play and they are creating a pretty decent pass rush.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:26 pm to graves1
Very similar to what LSU plays (why both teams have large LB tilted sack stat). But back to what I was saying — makes more sense to look at the actual matchups than it does to compare defense to defense.
I’m concerned about LSU LBs in pass coverage — not really concerned about LSU O-line.
I’m concerned about LSU LBs in pass coverage — not really concerned about LSU O-line.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:30 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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I’m curious about this Bama pass rush narrative
It wasn't all that great until we got everyone back. It's been pretty disruptive after that point. We get Lewis off the edge now and he has 5 sacks in the past 4 games without using the blitz.
The biggest thing I have liked seeing is that the DL, as of late, doesn't just get blocked and then the QB gets a pass off. They've been disruptive, getting PBUs at the LOS. We didn't have that most of the year.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:38 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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makes more sense to look at the actual matchups than it does to compare defense to defense.
I agree. That's why I was giving the advantage to the Alabama WR's earlier.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:44 pm to skrayper
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5 sacks in the past 4 games
You know what’s funny about that is Arky actually had far and away the best O-line sack rate of all those teams (adjusted for garbage time).
LSU has been excellent in protection on passing downs but is comparable to Tenn/A&M overall — but that’s after facing AU. I think if we adjust this for competition, LSU probably has the best pass protection Bama has seen this far.
Hard not to feel confident in that area after little issue moving the ball on that AU front.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:55 pm to CrimsonCoast
Your numbers are skewed because the only team with a pulse that you've played is texas a&m. I'm not saying Bama isn't a great team but I think we are more evenly matched than people realize. I'd give LSU the edge based on who we've played.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:00 pm to graves1
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I agree. That's why I was giving the advantage to the Alabama WR's earlier
I have a hard time imagining either d backfield shutting down either QB, so if there’s any advantage it would be minuscule in either case.
I expect Bama to score plenty, but Burrow is the kind of guy a team needs to go in and steal a W out of a hostile environment on a big stage.
Stat sheet/home field/last year has me leaning Bama by 7-10, but from what I have seen from Joe the past two years in terms of grit + the new scheme it is hard to imagine him not winning right now.
Tua ain’t no slouch, but with so many factors close to even I do like Burrow’s intangibles being on LSU’s side... Granted I’d also take Saban at the helm over Orgeron (no slight against O). Should be fun to watch.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 7:36 pm to mistaken4193
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Because the game is in BDS. I don’t think we would win this year if it were in Baton Rouge
Actually, since 1982 LSU holds a 11-7 lead in games played in Alabama. There has been 2 overtime games in the series and the road team won each time (LSU @ Bama & Bama @LSU)
I like the history in this series but of course;
Bama Can't Lose!
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