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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:08 am to Hback
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That was a November game.
We used to travel to Penn State/Notre Dame late in the year quite often back when that was a thing that college football teams did
1976 - @ Notre Dame (11/13)
1981 - @ Penn State (11/14)
1983 - @ Boston College (11/25)
1984 - @ Cincinnati (11/17)
1987 - @ Notre Dame (11/14)
1989 - @ Penn State (10/28)
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:We try to but no one wants to play.
You guys play a lot of big out of conference games in November?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:16 am to BuckI
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We try to but no one wants to play.
Your league played a grand total of 1 non-conference games in November. 1. It was USC/Notre Dame, which is a rivalry game that is always played during rivalry week when played in Los Angeles. And it wouldn't shock me if the B1G is moving to get that moved to October when they play the South Bend year of the game.
Your league doesn't play November OOC games. It's part of the scheduling doctrine. Play all 3 OOC games before November 1. All games late in the season are conference games.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It was USC/Notre Dame, which is a rivalry game that is always played during rivalry week when played in Los Angeles. And it wouldn't shock me if the B1G is moving to get that moved to October when they play the South Bend year of the game.
It's been mid-October for the South Bend years going back to the 1960's.
The Bush Push game was on October 15th.
USC pushed to have it changed for the South Bend years because of the weather (seriously). Notre Dame had only lost one game in South Bend between the Depression and when they changed it to have the game in mid-October instead of late November in the 60's.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:47 am to AbuTheMonkey
All the skill players are from the South no matter.....
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:58 pm to lewis and herschel
Hammering tennessee and the points vs ohio state.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:10 pm to zzgobucky
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Bama +3 @ ND, Tenn +7.5 @ OSU
ND will cover vs Bama.
TN may cover, but I like OSU to win.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:11 pm to zzgobucky
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Indiana +12 vs Georgia
ASU +11 vs PSU
I like both favorites to win, but I don't think either would cover.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:35 pm to lewis and herschel
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All the players come from the South anymore any way
If you repeat things enough, maybe they’ll be true lol. This isn’t factual. Yes a good portion come fro the south. But if that’s the case for all programs, why do teams at the FCS level excel in places like Montana and North Dakota state? There weren’t too many “southern” kids wanting to play near the Canadian border
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:11 pm to Taurus 357
ND State and Montana arent big time college football with the most elite players in the country.
Damn you sheephumpers are stupid.
Damn you sheephumpers are stupid.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:18 pm to Taurus 357
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If you repeat things enough, maybe they’ll be true lol. This isn’t factual. Yes a good portion come fro the south. But if that’s the case for all programs, why do teams at the FCS level excel in places like Montana and North Dakota state? There weren’t too many “southern” kids wanting to play near the Canadian border
The good FCS schools do recruit kids from places like Texas and Florida, but in reality, the top dogs in FBS have increasingly national footprints these days, even schools like Georgia, Florida, and Texas.
ND's starting 22 go like:
Offense - CA, FL, TX, OH (x2), AL, MO, GA, WI, IL, MI
Defense - NJ (x3), IL, MI, IN (x2), SC, MO, NE, TX, FL
Starting 22 is from 15 different states, and our best players are kind of all over the map as well. Probably the top 4 draft picks on this current squad are from Omaha, St. Louis, Phoenix, and Austin.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:20 pm to tide06
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You can basically predict Bama’s offensive output based on their opponents front 7
Yep, and those of us who still talk about actual football here (tide06, I know you're one) also know that most of our offensive line is incompatible with Kalen DeBoer's concepts.
I watched a lot of offseason film on his Washington teams, and one of his staples is constant offensive line movement, with good old-school pin and pull action.
He combines this with a modified (Tennessee) wide-split style, out of stack and bunch.
Effectively what this causes is the defensive line to get so beat down and gassed early by motions, pulls, traps, screens, etc., that by the second half they've stopped getting penetration and are turning and looking for the ball at the snap, which is when you should start seeing huge running lanes opening up.
One issue is that in this first year most of the guys DeBoer inherited are road-grader types, whereas he actually needs smaller, quicker, faster linemen that can move to run his offense effectively.
How many times this season have we seen a play were the lineman hasn't reached in time and they set the edge, or Milroe is shoving someone to get out of the way?
There's only so much you can scheme around. Just one of those personnel things that's a work in progress.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:24 pm to lewis and herschel
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ND State and Montana arent big time college football with the most elite players in the country.
Right. Those are just made up games on ESPN. There are no other football teams at smaller schools with championship games being played lol.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:28 pm to Taurus 357
They are fillers dumbarse. The top 300 recruits could give no shits about FCS football.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:40 pm to lewis and herschel
It’s okay. You lose. Now it’s bed time for you gramps
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:51 pm to Taurus 357
Your posting is as bad as your taste in guns. This is an Sec board ****.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:51 pm to paperwasp
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He combines this with a modified (Tennessee) wide-split style, out of stack and bunch.
That’s been the most interesting thing with Heupel at TN to me.
IMO his passing scheme has been figured out for the most part.
But what hasn’t been figured out is how to deal with the extremely wide looks with stack and other eye candy elements from a run perspective.
It really puts a lot of pressure on a defense if you have speed outside as TN did in the past, a QB who can deliver on slants consistently (which they don’t right now) and the ability to run inside.
That scheme really puts defenses in tough spots as to what they want to take away and with the right line you can feel them take over games in the 2H against teams without depth via the run late.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:03 pm to labamafan
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ND has a QB who can run and pass. I don’t know about their defense but he is good.
Not sure how you can know if their offense or defense is worth a damn one way or the other when you consider their awful schedule.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:44 pm to tide06
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That’s been the most interesting thing with Heupel at TN to me.
IMO his passing scheme has been figured out for the most part.
But what hasn’t been figured out is how to deal with the extremely wide looks with stack and other eye candy elements from a run perspective.
It really puts a lot of pressure on a defense if you have speed outside as TN did in the past, a QB who can deliver on slants consistently (which they don’t right now) and the ability to run inside.
That scheme really puts defenses in tough spots as to what they want to take away and with the right line you can feel them take over games in the 2H against teams without depth via the run late.
Great post and breakdown of Heupel’s offense at Tennessee. Especially the last line. Gassing teams over the course of the game and eventually getting the defense completely on their heels towards the end of the game seems to be Heupel’s entire offensive philosophy. Even this year when Tennessee had bad passing games against Florida and Alabama, neither of them had an answer for Tennessee’s rushing attack in the 4th quarter. Even if you look at the 2022 TSIO with Hyatt going crazy, it was Jaylen Wright popping off 7-8 yards every carry late in the 4th and Bama’s front had no answer.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence Georgia is the only team that hasn’t had at least one game getting gashed by Heupel’s offense in his tenure here. The pattern with them is their front is so good at stopping the run with only 4-5, they have the athletes at DB to man up Tennessee’s receivers and play them tight, while almost always keeping at least one safety deep over the middle to prevent those giant gash plays up the seam or with the slant. Even though Sampson had a nice game on the ground, Tennessee wasn’t able to wear Georgia out like they wanted to, never could really stretch their defense out through the air, and eventually Tennessee gets down and the offense became one dimensional.
This play earlier in the year against Oklahoma is a great example of what Tennessee wants to do when the offense is clicking. They had spent the majority of the first quarter dinking and dunking with WR screens, quick passes out into the flat and trying to establish the run with Sampson. Watch the safety start creeping up before the snap, clearly expecting a handoff to Sampson. Those 5-6 yards the safety gave up was all the space Thornton needed and credit to Nico, he fired a perfect piss missile in stride.
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