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re: Auburn's recent history of firing coaches so soon has made it hard for them to

Posted on 6/30/25 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
4012 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 2:08 pm to
It’s just dirty how the Boogs ruined Harsin’s name through very public rumors and innuendo.

Then they hire Freeze who’s reputation can’t be ruined
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34903 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 4:15 pm to
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I remember during the Malzahn years, fans were screaming for Gus’ head. And while I was not happy with where we were at, I kept saying to all my most vocal friends to show me the plan and I might get on board, but there wasn’t a plan… which was the problem. That’s how we got Harsin.



The Gus buyout was the biggest ever until Jimbo and yall have only done worse sense.

It isn't just yall though, every fanbase thinks the answer is "firing the coach." Think of all the heat Day got before last year for being perfect basically.

Its hard to deal with.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29552 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 4:22 pm to
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It’s just dirty how the Boogs ruined Harsin’s name through very public rumors and innuendo.


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Cal has been hit hard this spring after losing starting quarterback Fernando Mendoza to Indiana earlier this year. The biggest loss was Ott, who left for Oklahoma earlier this month after three stellar years at Cal.


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The Golden Bears also saw leading rusher Jaivian Thomas enter the portal last week and reportedly three other scholarship running backs went into the portal.

Cal also lost star tight end Jack Endries to Texas in the portal, leading to several big holes on offense.



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Multiple sources suggested new OC Bryan Harsin hasn't exactly been a culture fit. Harsin, who flamed out at Auburn in just two years as head coach, hasn't won over the locker room. Some close to the program believe his presence has accelerated the team's unraveling rather than stabilizing it.



That Harsin? The same Harsin that ran off a QB born and bred Auburn? It's a mystery why kids don't want to play for him.

This post was edited on 6/30/25 at 4:28 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19355 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 4:24 pm to
disagree

we fired one guy after 1.5 seasons when it was clear he was mailing it in

every other HC in the past 75 years has had 4 full seasons

meanwhile, Bama had 5 different HCs from 1/1/1997 to 12/01/2006 - not counting Joe Kines

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19355 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 4:27 pm to
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The Gus buyout was the biggest ever until Jimbo and yall have only done worse sense.
every buyout ever paid to an AU football HC in our entire history is still < what you assclowns paid Jimbo

and you paid Rumlin, Sherman and Franchione many millions before that
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19473 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 4:30 pm to
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I love it when outsiders know so well the innerworkings of Auburn.


You don’t need to know how to rebuild an engine to know when a car is on fire.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20093 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 5:25 am to
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the sec already has a strong reputation of meat grinding coaches, and giving very little time to establishing your program.


The “market rate” contracts for coaches raises expectations.

If you want to coach ball and relax, go to Division III.

Every SEC coach’s job is on the line everyday. They are paid handsomely.

Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3310 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 5:40 am to
Bruce is a great coach. Hugh beat Saban twice at Ole Miss. The baseball team had a good year. I would have to disagree.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:05 am to
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The Harsin thing was embarrassing for sure, they should have just fired him for sucking dong but the Auburn booster boogeyman is one of the most ridiculous narratives out there.

Who would you want to be the next Auburn football HC?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:12 am to
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“I know we have to make it to a bowl game this season”

Hugh Freeze in the year of our Lord 2025

It’s become a “one last stop before retirement” job.

Haven't you notice he has been golfing a lot lately? That isn't looking good so far.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:25 am to
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That Harsin? The same Harsin that ran off a QB born and bred Auburn? It's a mystery why kids don't want to play for him.


How the heck did Auburn fans and the AD not know he had problems even at Boise St.
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
14440 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:29 am to
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How the heck did Auburn fans and the AD not know he had problems even at Boise St.


Because AU's AD ( at the time) had spent quality time with Harsin in a hot tub....don't ya know?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:29 am to
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The “market rate” contracts for coaches raises expectations.

If you want to coach ball and relax, go to Division III.

Every SEC coach’s job is on the line everyday. They are paid handsomely.


That is exactly what Harsin did when he was at Boise St.
I was shocked when he was hired. Some of the Auburn fans were pointed out that he has more experience and many wins. Plus Drinkwitz was an assistant under Harsin at Boise St. Plus Boise St. Fans complained about him. No top team feared to play Boise St when Harsin was the HC there.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 7:45 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:34 am to
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How the heck did Auburn fans and the AD not know he had problems even at Boise St.


Because AU's AD ( at the time) had spent quality time with Harsin in a hot tub....don't ya know?

Where were the Auburn fans protested the hire?
Did you see Texas A&M protested the hiring of Stoops?
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18416 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:21 am to
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Do you agree or disagree ?
Part of the narrative, but simple not true.

Auburn should never have hired Harsin. He is a terrible coach and a worse person. He was fired for many reasons, his tenure was marked by poor on-field performance, significant player and staff turnover (This continues at Cal), recruiting struggles (He refused to recruit). The off-field controversies was not a true factor.

1) Players: Bo Nix, a life long Auburn fan transferred along with 19 others. who described his time under Harsin as “miserable

2)Coaching: Defensive coordinator Derek Mason leaving for Oklahoma State, taking a $400,000 pay cut, reportedly due to disagreements with Harsin, including over the hiring of a defensive line coach and racist accusations about the players.

3) Coaching: Firing wide receivers coach Cornelius Williams four games into the season and Mike Bobo after the iron bowl. Defensive line coach Nick Eason and edge coach Bert Watts also departed (That is a lot of turnover) Hiring an OC (Austin Davis) as OC who resigned after 4 weeks.

4) Recruiting: Auburn signing the worst two recruiting classes in program history. He failed to land top-100 commits, did not build relationships with Alabama high school coaches, who reported little to no contact with him. This left Auburn’s roster depleted, especially on the offensive line.


Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9443 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:35 am to
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Haven't you notice he has been golfing a lot lately? That isn't looking good so far.


Most SEC coaches participate in a number of charity golf events in the spring, even if they are not good golfers. Your very own Eli Drinkwitz does the same … as has been proven on many, many occasions. Did that affect either of your recent ten-win seasons?

To the OPs question, it breaks down like this. Much of Freeze’s runway in getting Auburn off of the ground will be determined in the first game of the season …. against an experienced Baylor … on the road.

In order for Auburn to be 4-1 or better when they exit September, Freeze must beat Baylor. To win 8 games, Auburn must be at least 4-1 exiting September. That’s it.

If Auburn loses to Baylor , Freeze will occupy one of the hottest seats in CFB to start the season.

I predict Auburn will beat Baylor, narrowly.
I predict Auburn will beat Mizzou, not so narrowly, in October.

This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 8:39 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18246 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:41 am to
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Haven't you notice he has been golfing a lot lately? That isn't looking good so far.


Most SEC coaches participate in a number of charity golf events in the spring, even if they are not good golfers. Your very own Eli Drinkwitz does the same … as has been proven on many, many occasions.

To the OPs question, it breaks down like this. Much of Freeze’s runway in getting Auburn off of the ground will be determined in the first game of the season …. against an experienced Baylor … on the road.

In order for Auburn to be 4-1 or better when they exit September, Freeze must beat Baylor. To win 8 games, Auburn must be at least 4-1 exiting September. That’s it.

If Auburn loses to Baylor , Freeze will occupy one of the hottest seats in CFB to start the season.

I predict Auburn will beat Baylor, narrowly.
I predict Auburn will beat Mizzou, not so narrowly, in October.

First of all Freeze is on the hot seat right now. Dribkwitz isn't.
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1584 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:51 am to
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Harsin laughed all the way to the bank, by the way.

So you acknowledge Harsin is a grifter but still insist AU was stupid to try and do something with him once they figured that out? Dumb..
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6567 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:27 am to
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I remember during the Malzahn years, fans were screaming for Gus’ head. And while I was not happy with where we were at, I kept saying to all my most vocal friends to show me the plan and I might get on board, but there wasn’t a plan… which was the problem. That’s how we got Harsin.


Gus was pretty much cooked once the substitution rules changed. He never adjusted. He could recruit solid talent and in his later years, he had strong enough defenses to put up a decent record, but that man was never going to build a contender at Auburn again.

On paper, Harsin wasn't a terrible idea but he was poorly vetted. If he ever expressed in any interview that he felt he could make up for recruiting with his 'superior coaching', his resume should have been immediately burned. At the time, we needed a smart, young, driven head coach that could build a program and deliver a modern offense. Harsin had some of those credentials. Now we have another spread guru likely hampered by the same substitution changes that nullified Gus, who thinks his superior recruiting can make up for poor on the field decision making.

The future will be more about scouting and money. Coaching, at least in the "we've got to get our Nick Saban" sense of the previous twenty years or so, is probably not going to be as big of a factor.
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
1933 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:40 am to
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LSU paid huge to get a guy who has underwhelmed 


because winning the sec west, Heisman winner, one of the greatest offenses to play college football and being in contention every year is so underwhelming when he started out with 20 something scholarship players his first year. I'm going to start calling Auburn 7&5.
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