Auburn Basketball Fans: Thoughts on this video?

Round 2 was all Jabari and Kessler bricking shots. Can't blame that game on the guards.

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gumpinmizzou

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It's all good man, and this video is a fresher take than some we've seen since their loss.

If anything, they weren’t able to take advantage of the aggressive extended double teams Miami through at Jabari… and when they did, Kessler missed the fricking layups.

Imo it’s lazy to say auburn didn’t take advantage of Jabari… we tried and tried to get him the ball… we did and he just had an off night.

It is what it is… but everyone is judging this team on what they were in mid January… not what the expectations were coming into the year… I get it, but talking heads gotta fill the air with something.

Who are these clowns ? They actually get paid for that shitshow of a podcast?

First of all, Jabari doesn't shoot bad shots, it obvious those clowns only watch Sport Center for highlights. Smith's worse shots are in the 10 ft range.
They are correct about the Guard play, but some of us have been saying the same thing since midseason. These clowns just woke up to it.
Pearl being a bad coach ? The last 5 years his record has been 26-8,30-10 25-6,13-14 and 28-6. Four NCAAT appearances (counting the cancelled year) and a Final 4 appearance. This is just proof any gamer can start a Podcast and some idiot fans will find them.

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Mark Titus has more up close and personal knowledge about big time basketball in the tip of his pinky than you do in your entire brain IP.

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I guess he had his pinky up arse when doing this show. The other two got high off it sniffing it.

Smith was very successful, perhaps more so, as our guard play diminished. I don't know that I'd say they were good enough facilitators for Jabari (they could have been better), but I think the bigger issue is that they didn't complement Jabari enough and left us too one-dimensional.

As for Bruce, he's going to let his guys run and I don't think that philosophy changes because the guards become less productive. Perhaps it should, although I suspect his reasoning was that guards who have traditionally been effective finishers and better threats from behind the arc are more likely to return to form in time for the tournament vs. trying to become more conservative mid-season.

These three TBH sound like they didn't watch Auburn earlier in SEC play and didn't watch Jabari all year. I find that hard to believe, but they sound like they're drawing season long conclusions from he Miami game. Jabari was taking shots he's been successfully taking during the entire second half of the season, he just wasn't making them. Likewise for Walker. The jumpers they're talking about were ones Jabari was increasingly taking - successfully - through the season. And doing so purposefully, not out of desperation.

It's typical talking head stuff IMO, "Jabari didn't belong on a CBB court" is pretty rich considering Auburn was picked - with Jabari - to finish 5/6th in the league. It's revisionist history similar to Cam. Plenty of people saw Jabari as a lottery pick, but the idea that he was a top or top 3 pick was an Auburn homer notion way before these goons signed on to the concept.

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These three TBH sound like they didn't watch Auburn earlier in SEC play and didn't watch Jabari all year. I find that hard to believe, but they sound like they're drawing season long conclusions from he Miami game. Jabari was taking shots he's been successfully taking during the entire second half of the season, he just wasn't making them. Likewise for Walker. The jumpers they're talking about were ones Jabari was increasingly taking - successfully - through the season. And doing so purposefully, not out of desperation.

It's typical talking head stuff IMO, "Jabari didn't belong on a CBB court" is pretty rich considering Auburn was picked - with Jabari - to finish 5/6th in the league. It's revisionist history similar to Cam. Plenty of people saw Jabari as a lottery pick, but the idea that he was a top or top 3 pick was an Auburn homer notion way before these goons signed on to the concept.

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I'd agree with most of that.

I do think Jabari definitely took even tougher shots than normal in that Miami game, but a lot of that was due to Miami's excellent defensive gameplan pushing him out and making it difficult on him. It is also true that he routinely made a bunch of those shots in the regular season, because he's insanely skilled.

I also agree that pre-season he was definitely not the #1 pick, but it did not take very long for people to watch everyone play games and determine that he was, at worst, a Top 3 pick (which I think is kind of normal with figuring out which highly touted freshman are good, great, the best, etc).


It's pretty simple - Auburn's guards were liabilities most of the time. They could get hot, but they could also be horrid, and they had no filter on shot selection. It's part of Bruce's offensive philosophy, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's much, much, much more streaky when your guards are less trustworthy - and this group of guards was probably the least trustworthy group he's had in the last 5 years.

Much like Oats - Pearl has a general overall philosophical system that he recruits to and is going to run no matter the personnel. There are pros and cons to that, but sometimes you end up having guys that are not exactly the fit you want in that system and you kind of have to ride with them and hope they figure it out. You can make a few tweaks here and there and maybe change lineup construction, but the general philosophy is what it is. Green/KD/Zep seemed to figure it out at times (mostly at home with the energy of the crowd and defense assisting), but by the end of the year they were not figuring it out much more than they were. Obviously we had similar square peg/round hole issues, and it just never seemed to work (much bigger than Auburn's and for longer).

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Smith was very successful, perhaps more so, as our guard play diminished. I don't know that I'd say they were good enough facilitators for Jabari (they could have been better), but I think the bigger issue is that they didn't complement Jabari enough and left us too one-dimensional.

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I'd agree with that. I thought Green and Johnson played a little too selfish at times. But, when they were on, y'all were so fun to watch. Gotta take the good with the bad.

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do think Jabari definitely took even tougher shots than normal in that Miami game, but a lot of that was due to Miami's excellent defensive gameplan pushing him out and making it difficult on him. It is also true that he routinely made a bunch of those shots in the regular season, because he's insanely skilled.

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Not any tougher shots, they just didn't go in. Miami did what a lot of teams had start doing covering Smith. face guarding him when he didn't have the ball. It made him have to turn his back to the rim to receive a pass and it forced him to shoot turnaround jumpers. The Defense wasn't an issue once he jumped since he was 6-10 and his defender was 6-7. He is a much better shooter when his feet are toward the basket when he gets the pass. He just wasn't on Sunday with his turnaround jumper.

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It's pretty simple - Auburn's guards were liabilities most of the time. They could get hot, but they could also be horrid, and they had no filter on shot selection. It's part of Bruce's offensive philosophy, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's much, much, much more streaky when your guards are less trustworthy - and this group of guards was probably the least trustworthy group he's had in the last 5 years.

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Not part of Bruce's Offensive philosophy, it was a result of his Defensive philosophy. He wanted his best defenders on the floor to start the game. Green and Flanigan were two of his better defenders and it forced him to play a 3 Guard starting lineup. In the end they were a liability.

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Much like Oats - Pearl has a general overall philosophical system that he recruits to and is going to run no matter the personnel. There are pros and cons to that, but sometimes you end up having guys that are not exactly the fit you want in that system and you kind of have to ride with them and hope they figure it out. You can make a few tweaks here and there and maybe change lineup construction, but the general philosophy is what it is. Green/KD/Zep seemed to figure it out at times (mostly at home with the energy of the crowd and defense assisting), but by the end of the year they were not figuring it out much more than they were. Obviously we had similar square peg/round hole issues, and it just never seemed to work (much bigger than Auburn's and for longer).

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Pearl is nothing like Oats. His philosophy is nothing like his. He believes in playing Defense first and then feeding his best players:
2018:Brown, Heron
2018-Okeke Harper,Brown
2019-Okoro, Doughty
2020-Flanigan, Cooper
2021-Smith, Kessler_

That means over the last 5 years he has highlighted on Offense every position (1-5) based on the strengths of his roster. His record shows he can adjust, this year he didn't have a real answer at the 1-3 position.