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re: Auburn Basketball Fans: Thoughts on this video?
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:55 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:55 pm to Irons Puppet
You are so predictable and such a frickin non-stop all-in never stopping homer and boot licker for everything that exists Auburn.
It's beautiful stuff.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:56 pm to gumpinmizzou
That and Bruce's system allows for player freedom on offense.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:59 pm to Irons Puppet
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He believes in feeding his best players:
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2021-Smith, Kessler_
Field Goals Attempted, 2021-22 Season
1. Jabari Smith (427)
2. Wendell Green Jr (373)
3. KD Johnson (345)
4. Walker Kessler (268)
Well, either you are wrong or Bruce failed at implementing what he believes. Take your pick.
His #7 and #8 best shooters took the 2nd and 3rd most shots on the team.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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You are so predictable and such a frickin non-stop all-in never stopping homer and boot licker for everything that exists Auburn.
It's beautiful stuff.
No, your entire post was to show that the criticism of Oats should be the same for Pearl. You had a butthurt statement and then built your post around it. Had nothing to do with AU season or what actually happened on the court. It was an attempt to counter the FOTM description of Oats.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:05 pm to Irons Puppet
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No, your entire post was to show that the criticism of Oats should be the same for Pearl. You had a butthurt statement and then built your post around it. Had nothing to do with AU season or what actually happened on the court. It was an attempt to counter the FOTM description of Oats.
Wow - you really were mentally broken by the other night. Of all the things to truly break you, I didn't think a 2nd round basketball loss would do the trick.
Hey, head up, top of the list Harsin has spring ball kicked off. Should be a big year on the plains this Fall!
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Field Goals Attempted, 2021-22 Season
1. Jabari Smith (427)
2. Wendell Green Jr (373)
3. KD Johnson (345)
4. Walker Kessler (268)
Shows you have little knowledge of the flow of the game or what was happening on the court. AU played 4 players beyond the arc and Kessler along the baseline the first half of the season. The ball handlers (Johnson, Green) would drive to the basket and lob a pass to Kessler , shoot a layup or push it back to Smith behind the arc. When teams forced Kessler away from the basket and double teamed Smith, those Guards had to shoot more. That is how it happened after the Missouri Game.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:07 pm to Irons Puppet
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Shows you have little knowledge of the flow of the game or what was happening on the court. AU played 4 players beyond the arc and Kessler along the baseline the first half of the season. The ball handlers (Johnson, Green) would drive to the basket and lob a pass to Kessler , shoot a layup or push it back to Smith behind the arc. When teams force Kessler away from the basket and double teamed Smith, those Guards had to shoot more. That is how it happened after the Missouri Game.
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Well, either you are wrong or Bruce failed at implementing what he believes. Take your pick.
We have our answer. Bruce apparently can only operate an offense with at least 3 NBA players. 2 is not enough, because other teams can apparently take both of them away with relative ease.
That seems like an indictment of the offensive system, but what do I know, I didn't play pickup ball at the Army base!
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Wow - you really were mentally broken by the other night. Of all the things to truly break you, I didn't think a 2nd round basketball loss would do the trick.
Hey, head up, top of the list Harsin has spring ball kicked off. Should be a big year on the plains this Fall!
The butthurt keeps flowing.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Well, either you are wrong or Bruce failed at implementing what he believes. Take your pick.
We have our answer. Bruce apparently can only operate an offense with at least 3 NBA players. 2 is not enough, because other teams can apparently easily take both of them away with relative e
Damn, continued butthurt. His plan worked great the first 2/3 of the season. I don't think his Final 4 team had three NBA players, not sure it had two.
P.S did you serve in the Military?
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:17 pm to Irons Puppet
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I don't think his Final 4 team had three NBA players, not sure it had two
But it had a floor general, which is necessary when your offensive system is wide open and player decision/spacing based, not scripted play based - which his is, regardless of whatever nonsense you keep wanting to say about getting guys the ball. Pearl's offense has been that way for 20 years. He says it, his players say it, everyone who watches them says it.
And because of that freedom, it requires a smart, quick minded point guard to effectively run the whole operation. When he has one of those (and especially when you throw in 1-2 good outside shooters), he generally has a really good offense (CJ Watson in 2006, Ramar Smith in 2008, Bobby Maze in 2010, Jared Harper in 2019/2020). When he doesn't have a great point guard or long wings that can shoot, that offense generally struggles or at best is streaky as hell.
You can argue with the brick wall all day long, but everyone agrees with how Bruce plays offense and has played offense since he was at Southern Indiana.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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And because of that freedom, it requires a smart, quick minded point guard to effectively run the whole operation. When he has one of those (and especially when you throw in 1-2 good outside shooters), he generally has a really good offense. When he doesn't have a great point guard or long wings that can shoot, that offense generally struggles or at best is streaky as hell.
What years didn't he have that type player ? How many decent Offenses lack a PG under any system ? Bruce has had a PG that could drive to the basket the last 5 seasons. Most were capable of a 10 foot pull up jumper or a 3 pt shot from outside also. He didn't have it this year and it wasn't because of the system.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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What years didn't he have that type player ?
The years Ramar Smith and Bobby Maze were freshman, his last year at Tennessee with Trae Golden, this year at Auburn. Bruce is and always has been elite at signing guys that fit exactly what he wants to do, so he doesn't have a lot of miss years at PG.
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He didn't have it this year and it wasn't because of the system.
Agree - I have no issues with his system. Kids like it, it generally works pretty well and he knows it inside and out. But, my point was, when you do run a system like that and you end up having deficiencies on the roster at a spot like PG, there aren't a lot of adjustments you can make to hide it, because your offense isn't play call/matchup based. And when that deficiency is point guard you are really in trouble, because you rely on that guy to basically run the whole show. You just have to roll with it and hope the kids get better/figure it out. That's what they did this year, and Green/Johnson couldn't figure it out/weren't good enough.
You hope that you get matchups in the tournament that don't bring it to the forefront, but they did. It happens. The tournament is hard as hell.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The years Ramar Smith and Bobby Maze were freshman, his last year at Tennessee with Trae Golden, this year at Auburn. Bruce is and always has been elite at signing guys that fit exactly what he wants to do, so he doesn't have a lot of miss years at PG.
OK, damn how are those two years emblematic of a 30 year HC career ?
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Agree - I have no issues with his system. Kids like it, it generally works pretty well and he knows it inside and out. But, my point was, when you do run a system like that and you end up having deficiencies on the roster at a spot like PG, there aren't a lot of adjustments you can make to hide it, because your offense isn't play call/matchup based. And when that deficiency is point guard you are really in trouble, because you rely on that guy to basically run the whole show. You just have to roll with it and hope the kids get better/figure it out. That's what they did this year, and Green/Johnson couldn't figure it out/weren't good enough.
You hope that you get matchups in the tournament that don't bring it to the forefront, but they did. It happens. The tournament is hard as hell.
It wasn't the matchup that brought it out, it was exposed by the Missouri Game. Against most of the SEC the talent allowed them to win most of those games regardless of those flaws. That is why many AU fans knew they would have a deep run this year unless something changed.
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