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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:37 pm to DWag215
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Arky needs a recruiter in the worst way. You can't bank on striking gold with a genius who wins despite shitty recruiting. Most the time, that shite doesn't work.
He did it at Wisconsin and Petrino did it here as well. Arkansas has never consistently gotten stud recruits from out of state, for us to have success we have to lock up in state talent and grab underrated guys from OK, LA, TX, MS, MO, etc.
Arkansas needs a coach who can spot talent and develop it to fit the system, that's what has worked here in the past and what worked for Bielema at Wisky. I know you don't understand that perspective considering your school is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country but that's just how it is.
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:40 pm to Latarian
It's a really good hire IMO. He emphasizes solid defense and, although Wisky has a well earned reputation as a smash mouth team, their offenses have been very balanced under BB. As far as Malzahn, Sumlin etc., BBs ball control philosophy maybe the perfect antidote for teams like this. Also,I'm sure he's smart enough to hire asst coaches from this region who will help him get a step ahead in recruiting.
With regard to his success in the BIG, everything is relative as far as I'm concerned.
With regard to his success in the BIG, everything is relative as far as I'm concerned.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:41 pm to Latarian
Petrino had a bit of luck on his side too. The state of Arkansas had better than average recruiting classes his first couple years.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:42 pm to Latarian
Bielema is going to have a tough time recruiting in the SEC especially if he was getting mad with Urban Meyers recruiting tactics.
IMO he better get some good coordinators from or with SEC ties.
Overall I do think he is a good hire though.
IMO he better get some good coordinators from or with SEC ties.
Overall I do think he is a good hire though.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:42 pm to Latarian
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I know you don't understand that perspective considering your school is located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country but that's just how it is.
But I can draw a parallel to Baylor and Arkansas. For all intents and purposes, Baylor might as well be located in fricking Idaho. Their location does nothing for them, despite being up the road from CS.
Not only does Briles occasionally pull kids from Texas and TAMU, the cat spots really good talent. All his WRs are way under-recruited. Yet they all fricking fly. The dude consistently has a good OL, one of the hardest positions to project.
And of course he recruited RG3 and Keenum--arguably two of the best college QBs of all time (and neiher were big time prospects).
Give him Arky resources and the dude would pull some kids from all the Texas schools. He is LOVED by HS coaches. Once you remove the Baylor factor, those coaches will be sending their boys his way without hesitation.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:44 pm to Latarian
He will be loved tenderly by Saban, Sumlin, and Miles as they go in dry.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:46 pm to Ted2010
He's just got no chance in a kid's living room when the competition is Saban, Miles, and Sumlin.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:47 pm to DWag215
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But I can draw a parallel to Baylor and Arkansas. For all intents and purposes, Baylor might as well be located in fricking Idaho. Their location does nothing for them,
regardless it's still smack dab in the middle of the state of Texas, a lot easier to get a kid to go to school a couple hours away from home instead of 7 or 8. Plus he's a Texas lifer, maybe he didn't want to leave or perhaps we didn't give him a look. Again, if we hire him we'd get criticized for hiring a coach who plays no defense.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:48 pm to Latarian
You hired a middle-aged version of Butthead.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:49 pm to Latarian
I think with Briles at the helm for a few more years Baylor can actually pull off one of those tarps over their seats.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:51 pm to redleg82
Good hire. But - not sure he can recruit SE, TX. etc.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:52 pm to Latarian
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'd love to hear the thoughts of our SEC brethren on the head coaching hire at the University of Arkansas
Excellent hire.
I don't expect too much from him next year, but any coach was going to struggle next year at AR. But, within 3 years AR fans will be very happy with him.
It will be interesting, however, to see how he handles recruiting down here though. His issues with Meyer are small potatoes compared to wait goes on in SEC recruiting.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:53 pm to Latarian
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Latarian
My question to you and other hogs fans is: if he struggles next year and only wins 4-5 games, are you patient or ticked off and ready for him to be gone?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:55 pm to redleg82
So what's with this "will Arkansas fans adjust to a run heavy offensive style?" Considering we've been exactly that for 47 of the last 52 years, I'm sure the fanbase will be fine with returning to smash mouth grind it out football.
Now our in-state talent does reflect the pass heavy HS systems that took over the state in the late 90's. We produce a good # of QB's, RB's, WR's, and DL. Just not a lot of top end talent, or depth.
Now our in-state talent does reflect the pass heavy HS systems that took over the state in the late 90's. We produce a good # of QB's, RB's, WR's, and DL. Just not a lot of top end talent, or depth.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:56 pm to AginAL
He coached under Bill Snyder before he went to Wisconsin.
That is a major entry on his resume. Coach Snyder is a certified bad arse.
That is a major entry on his resume. Coach Snyder is a certified bad arse.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:06 pm to Latarian
Honestly, Im with DWag15 on this (maybe not as critical).
Yes I do think he is a good coach, but I don't think he is what Arkansas needed.
He has already openly admitted what his view on recruiting is around these parts. Those were some scary words that would make me very nervous. Reminded me of Mike Sherman, who recruited decently, but got his arse handed to him a lot as well due to "nice guy" tactics.
Honestly, if you guys would have hired Briles I would be very concerned. I hate him and Baylor, but he is competing in that conference with bottom level talent. Defense isn't his fault either when he coaches at a place like BU. He would have won for you guys, and quickly.
Bielema will do ok there, but I dont think he is going do better than Petrino.
On the surface though, it seems like a good hire. A lot depends on the staff he puts together.
Yes I do think he is a good coach, but I don't think he is what Arkansas needed.
He has already openly admitted what his view on recruiting is around these parts. Those were some scary words that would make me very nervous. Reminded me of Mike Sherman, who recruited decently, but got his arse handed to him a lot as well due to "nice guy" tactics.
Honestly, if you guys would have hired Briles I would be very concerned. I hate him and Baylor, but he is competing in that conference with bottom level talent. Defense isn't his fault either when he coaches at a place like BU. He would have won for you guys, and quickly.
Bielema will do ok there, but I dont think he is going do better than Petrino.
On the surface though, it seems like a good hire. A lot depends on the staff he puts together.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:09 pm to Latarian
He'll be made or broken by his assistants.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:26 pm to redstick13
LINK
I prefer this stat. The guy is a defensive coach and his teams are consistently ranked in the top 20 in total defense. With a decent offensive coordinator we will be fine.
I prefer this stat. The guy is a defensive coach and his teams are consistently ranked in the top 20 in total defense. With a decent offensive coordinator we will be fine.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:30 pm to Latarian
I think it's a great hire and a good fit for Arkansas. He's clearly good at evaluating talent and he can hire people on his staff that have good recruiting ties.
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