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Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:31 pm to wadewilson
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*Covid season
It wasn't a real football season. Get over it.
The fact LSU fans have to pretend the season didn't exist only highlights deep down you know Alabama was better.
And yet still 1995 Nebraska is the GOAT.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:34 pm to NineLineBind
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It would take 17 games if you don’t get the bye.
If you don't get the bye, that means you've already lost your conference championship game. Notre Dame is the exception, of course. And, for them since they don't play a conference championship game, they'd still only have to play 16 games.
So, under the current format, it'll always be 16-0. Certainly tougher than15-0 especially since you'd be playing more really good teams, but not impossible.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:37 pm to LetItBe
Yes for the sec it is I said it before last year it’s over and so is this crappy 12 team playofff with 2-3
Sec teams …. Giving away spots for schools who schedule no one ….
Sec teams …. Giving away spots for schools who schedule no one ….
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:42 pm to Soonerd78
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Yes for the sec it is
It depends on the conference schedule. This year, with Texas' relatively easy conference schedule, all they would have needed to do was beat Georgia at home and then Tennessee(?) in Atlanta and they would have entered the CFP undefeated. It's not impossible.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:05 pm to Darth_Vader
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*first team to go undefeated in playoff era
** Covid year
this eats Bana up bigly 
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:47 pm to wadewilson
F+ is calculated based on a team's play in games THAT YEAR compared to all other teams that year. During the 2020 ("COVID Year") college football season, arguably EVERY team was below its usual standard caliber of play after not having 2020 Spring practice. Offenses generally have the advantage over defenses in this scenario also. Based on what I understand about F+, it is a useless metric in comparing a team from one season to any team from any other season, simply because there is no head-to-head parameter to quantify. Therefore F+ is meaningless in trying to determine the GOAT college football team. My Top 3 (in chronological order) for GOAT are: '95 Nebraska, '01 Miami, '19 LSU.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:54 am to EulerRules
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F+ is calculated based on a team's play in games THAT YEAR compared to all other teams that year. During the 2020 ("COVID Year") college football season, arguably EVERY team was below its usual standard caliber of play after not having 2020 Spring practice. Offenses generally have the advantage over defenses in this scenario also. Based on what I understand about F+, it is a useless metric in comparing a team from one season to any team from any other season, simply because there is no head-to-head parameter to quantify. Therefore F+ is meaningless in trying to determine the GOAT college football team. My Top 3 (in chronological order) for GOAT are: '95 Nebraska, '01 Miami, '19 LSU.
How do you measure teams if not in terms of how they did against the teams that year?
That is the entire point. You can only compare 95 Nebraska against those it played. And in that manner they dominated all their competition and it shows in the MoV.
And that's what shows in the F+, how much they dominated the competition.
LSU had a bad defense. They barely won multiple games with MoV of 3, 5 and 7. It was also Alabama's defense in 2020 that disqualified it with the SECCG against Florida being 6 points IIRC.
Both of these show up in F+ as neither defense is in the top10, but both have great offenses.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:01 am to idlewatcher
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this eats Bana up bigly
I just think about how Alabama beat the shite outta everyone so badly LSU fans had to pretend the season didn't even happen. I've been watching college football for 50 years and it's the only time in my life I have ever witnessed such a high level of delusion and cope over such a sustained period of time.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:51 am to 3down10
- National Champions (destroyed defending National Champs)
- Beat a historical 7 - top 10 teams
- SEC Champions
- SEC West Champions
- Ed Ogeron: Coach of the Year ESPN, Coach of the Year SEC, Coach of the Year AP, Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Football Writer’s Association of America
- Joe Brady: Assistant Coach of the Year (Broyles Award), Best Coordinator (Herbie Awards)
- Joe Burrow: Heisman Trophy **
**Highest percentage of 1st place votes (90.7%); Largest Margin of Victory (1,846 points); Highest Percentage of Possible Points (93.8%), and Highest Percentage of Ballots Received (95.5%), Maxwell Award Player of the Year, Associated Press Player of the Year, Walter Camp Award (best player), SEC Player of the Year, Davey O’Brien (best QB), Johnny Unitas Golden Arm, Offensive Player of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Grant Delpit: Jim Thorpe Award (best DB)
- Ja’Marr Chase: Biletnikoff Award (best Receiver)
- Ja’Marr Chase & Justin Jefferson: Tandem of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Offensive Line: Joe Moore Award (Nation’s top O-line)
- LSU-Alabama: Best Game of the Year (Herbie Awards)
This is a few historical accomplishments. Like I said, best CFB team in history.
Dumba$$
- Beat a historical 7 - top 10 teams
- SEC Champions
- SEC West Champions
- Ed Ogeron: Coach of the Year ESPN, Coach of the Year SEC, Coach of the Year AP, Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Football Writer’s Association of America
- Joe Brady: Assistant Coach of the Year (Broyles Award), Best Coordinator (Herbie Awards)
- Joe Burrow: Heisman Trophy **
**Highest percentage of 1st place votes (90.7%); Largest Margin of Victory (1,846 points); Highest Percentage of Possible Points (93.8%), and Highest Percentage of Ballots Received (95.5%), Maxwell Award Player of the Year, Associated Press Player of the Year, Walter Camp Award (best player), SEC Player of the Year, Davey O’Brien (best QB), Johnny Unitas Golden Arm, Offensive Player of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Grant Delpit: Jim Thorpe Award (best DB)
- Ja’Marr Chase: Biletnikoff Award (best Receiver)
- Ja’Marr Chase & Justin Jefferson: Tandem of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Offensive Line: Joe Moore Award (Nation’s top O-line)
- LSU-Alabama: Best Game of the Year (Herbie Awards)
This is a few historical accomplishments. Like I said, best CFB team in history.
Dumba$$
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:51 am to EulerRules
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My Top 3 (in chronological order) for GOAT are: '95 Nebraska, '01 Miami, '19 LSU.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:41 am to Tarpon08
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Wow only 4 Teams have EVER gone 15-0? Certainly Alabama must be one of them!?!?
Nope, while Ed Orgeron did coach one of those teams.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:10 am to BigNastyTiger417
So instead of posting the image, you typed it out?
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- National Champions (destroyed defending National Champs)
No such thing as defending National Champions and someone wins the National Championship every year.
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- Beat a historical 7 - top 10 teams
False. This uses game time rankings instead of actual rankings. If LSU argument was so strong, why do you need to pretend a team that finished unranked in one of the polls was a top10 team?
Not only that, you only beat that team by 7 points.
Auburn was not a top10 team either, they were #14 and you only beat them by 3 points.
And so on.
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- SEC Champions
- SEC West Champions
Happens every year, you're just adding stupid shite like this as fillers to make your argument seem bigger.
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- Ed Ogeron: Coach of the Year ESPN, Coach of the Year SEC, Coach of the Year AP, Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Football Writer’s Association of America
- Joe Brady: Assistant Coach of the Year (Broyles Award), Best Coordinator (Herbie Awards)
- Joe Burrow: Heisman Trophy **
**Highest percentage of 1st place votes (90.7%); Largest Margin of Victory (1,846 points); Highest Percentage of Possible Points (93.8%), and Highest Percentage of Ballots Received (95.5%), Maxwell Award Player of the Year, Associated Press Player of the Year, Walter Camp Award (best player), SEC Player of the Year, Davey O’Brien (best QB), Johnny Unitas Golden Arm, Offensive Player of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Grant Delpit: Jim Thorpe Award (best DB)
- Ja’Marr Chase: Biletnikoff Award (best Receiver)
- Ja’Marr Chase & Justin Jefferson: Tandem of the Year (Herbie Awards)
- Offensive Line: Joe Moore Award (Nation’s top O-line)
- LSU-Alabama: Best Game of the Year (Herbie Awards)
The majority of these awards didn't even exist until recently after ESPN added them in order to create 1 hour long awards ceremony.
Furthermore, they are completely meaningless because it's a team sport, not an individual award sport.
In the meantime, LSU barely beat #14 Auburn by 3 points, #8 Alabama by 5 points and #25/UR Texas by 7 points.
That's no where near the performance of the GOAT and the fact you can't make a real argument highlights how weak the claim is.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:17 am to wadewilson
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The fact LSU fans have to highlight a bunch of fake stats only goes to show the 2019 claim is bullshite.
Why do you need to pretend Auburn was a top10 team when they finished #14? Is it because you only beat them by 3 points?
And why do you need to pretend Texas was a top10 team when they didn't finish the season ranked at all in one of the polls and barely made it @ #25 for the others? Is it because you barely beat that team by 7 points?
So magically, these teams just happened to be 3 and 7 points off the GOAT despite them not even finishing in the top10 that season?
And at the same time, you use them for Nebraska as a way to lower their rankings.
In 1995 K-State finished 6/7, not #8.
Kansas was 9/10, not #10
Colorado was 4/5, not #7
Florida did still finish #2 in the AP.
So again, if the LSU case is so strong why do you need to create fake stats to make the argument?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:18 am to Darth_Vader
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I’m still pissed off at that one.
USC would have boat raced y'all
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:19 am to Tarpon08
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Wow only 4 Teams have EVER gone 15-0? Certainly Alabama must be one of them!?!?
Alabama's 13-0 in 2020 was more impressive considering it was against 13 FBS schools, and 11 of the best teams the SEC had to offer.
Unless you think Alabama needed a win against some FCS school and some G5 cupcake for the other 2 teams.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:27 am to Darth_Vader
No
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:35 am to TheDeathValley
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15 games
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12 Regular Season
Conference Championship
QF
SF
CFPNCG
16-0 with a bye
17-0 without a bye (I don’t see this ever happening)
What is the likelihood you would have an undefeated conference champion that wouldn't get a bye?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:01 pm to 3down10
You seriously are ignorant to football history bud.
Turn your brain on before commenting.
Turn your brain on before commenting.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:52 pm to 3down10
Nope. Many teams in 2020 didn’t have all players due to opt-outs by starters.
No doubt Bama was the best team that year, however no one had their full team.
No doubt Bama was the best team that year, however no one had their full team.
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