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Are Kentucky people getting restless?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:48 am
Obviously I don't mean "FAHR CAL!", and Kentucky has had insane success under Cal in his 7 seasons
- 217 wins (31-7 average season)
- 82% winning percentage
- 95-25 SEC record (14-4 average season)
- 3 NCAA Final Fours
- 4 SECT Championships
- 3 SEC Regular Season Championships
- 18 1st round picks
- 5 Top 5 picks
But with all of that success they have only brought home 1 National Championship. Now, anywhere else in the SEC (or for that matter the country) I don't think there would be a shred of disappointment with those numbers. But this is Kentucky, and Kentucky expects to win national championships. And, they are now stuck on 1 in the Cal era in which NBA players have been in and out the door every year.
It isn't a fair comparison because the sports are so different, but the oft compared football version of Cal, Nick Saban, has 4 national championships in 9 years.
What is the overall feeling of Big Blue Nation? What should be the overall feeling?
- 217 wins (31-7 average season)
- 82% winning percentage
- 95-25 SEC record (14-4 average season)
- 3 NCAA Final Fours
- 4 SECT Championships
- 3 SEC Regular Season Championships
- 18 1st round picks
- 5 Top 5 picks
But with all of that success they have only brought home 1 National Championship. Now, anywhere else in the SEC (or for that matter the country) I don't think there would be a shred of disappointment with those numbers. But this is Kentucky, and Kentucky expects to win national championships. And, they are now stuck on 1 in the Cal era in which NBA players have been in and out the door every year.
It isn't a fair comparison because the sports are so different, but the oft compared football version of Cal, Nick Saban, has 4 national championships in 9 years.
What is the overall feeling of Big Blue Nation? What should be the overall feeling?
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 9:50 am
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Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:52 am to SummerOfGeorge
I think that talent superiority gets you much farther in football than basketball. Just because you are good doesn't mean you are even getting to the second round of the tournament i.e. Michigan State.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
The real question: who cares about ky?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
The NCAA would have to punish them in order for them to be restless.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
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But with all of that success they have only brought home 1 National Championship. Now, anywhere else in the SEC (or for that matter the country) I don't think there would be a shred of disappointment with those numbers. But this is Kentucky, and Kentucky expects to win national championships. And, they are now stuck on 1 in the Cal era in which NBA players have been in and out the door every year.
It isn't a fair comparison because the sports are so different, but the oft compared football version of Cal, Nick Saban, has 4 national championships in 9 years.
What is the overall feeling of Big Blue Nation? What should be the overall feeling?
How many years did they keep tubby?
Yeah, they aren't going to get rid of cal.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:06 am to agrunner
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How many years did they keep tubby? Yeah, they aren't going to get rid of cal.
Nobody is suggesting they'd ever get rid of Cal.
Tubby went 263-83, 120-40 in the SEC, won the national title in 1998 (his first year). He went to 3 Elite 8's but his last 2 seasons they went 22-13 (9-7) and 22-12 (9-7) and lost in the 2nd round.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:07 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Nobody is suggesting they'd ever get rid of Cal.
Tubby went 263-83, 120-40 in the SEC, won the national title in 1998 (his first year). He went to 3 Elite 8's but his last 2 seasons they went 22-13 (9-7) and 22-12 (9-7) and lost in the 2nd round.
That's my point, they kept tubby around for a very long time despite not getting close to another championship. Cal has had much more success than him.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:07 am to SummerOfGeorge
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What is the overall feeling of Big Blue Nation?
They gone, you asked this question too late.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
We've been a 1 seed 3 times in 7 years. If this were football that would mean we would have been in the championship game 3 times.
You get a month to prepare for one opponent in football. Then a subsequent week for the second one. They wait 24 hours before even selecting the four teams officially. You get three or four days depending, to prepare for your first opponent and then a day off before number two. Thy don't even wait 12 hours to pick 68 teams in basketball.
Cal is doing fine.
You get a month to prepare for one opponent in football. Then a subsequent week for the second one. They wait 24 hours before even selecting the four teams officially. You get three or four days depending, to prepare for your first opponent and then a day off before number two. Thy don't even wait 12 hours to pick 68 teams in basketball.
Cal is doing fine.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:11 am to agrunner
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That's my point, they kept tubby around for a very long time despite not getting close to another championship.
That isn't exactly true.
2003 : 32-4 (16-0), #1 in last AP poll, #1 overall seed, lost to D. Wade and Marquette in the Elite 8
2004 : 27-5 (13-3), #2 seed, upset by UAB in 2nd round
2005 : 28-6 (14-2), #2 seed, lost in Elite 8 to Michigan State in 2 OT
They were very much a national threat until his last 2 seasons and they fired him pretty quickly after the 2nd one (2 seasons in which they still went to the NCAA tournament).
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
And cal has 4 final four appearances and 5 great 8 appearances.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
It's crazy to me that he's already been there 7 years. Time flies when you old af.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
My UK buddy who is a die hard said the fanbase still loves Cal and he is actually worried he'll leave for an NBA gig to coach Lebron James.
The two are good friends and the Cavs seem to have a coaching revolving door with Lebron having a lot of say in who the coach is.
The two are good friends and the Cavs seem to have a coaching revolving door with Lebron having a lot of say in who the coach is.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:24 am to Larry
I would think Cal would be the biggest supporter of basketball going to a baseball like draft system. Guys like Lebron shouldn't have to wait. And if they aren't ready to go straight out of high school, then they should spend 2-3 years on campus.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:27 am to agrunner
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great 8 appearances.
Never heard that beforePosted on 3/21/16 at 10:29 am to TheCaterpillar
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he is actually worried he'll leave for an NBA gig to coach Lebron James.
I don't see that at all, he had many good chances but always turned them down. I think at this point he is going to stay in college till its over.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:43 am to TheCaterpillar
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My UK buddy who is a die hard said the fanbase still loves Cal and he is actually worried he'll leave for an NBA gig to coach Lebron James.
For awhile I thought he would the first time it opened up, but not now. I think I'd be more concerned if it was a team like Chicago with an option to pick up a Boogie or AD.
Either way, I feel a lot better with his son committing recently. Coaching his son is a bucket list type thing for him he's mentioned a lot.
And it seems the only discussion I see of restlessness among UK fans is among opposing fans/media trying to stir shite up. With the exception of some fringe idiots, everyone is aware that the NCAA Tournament is one of the toughest formats to chose a champ. And this is only the second season he's fallen short of a Sweet 16 in his 7 years at UK. I can only think of a couple of coaches that can boast that at blood blue programs.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:45 am to shotcaller1
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The real question: who cares about ky?
There's been more threads started since UK's loss about UK by Aggies than by UK fans. Give me a fricking break.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:50 am to BluegrassBelle
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There's been more threads started since UK's loss about UK by Aggies than by UK fans. Give me a fricking break.
There are only about five of you, and many more of us. Well maybe six during March.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:51 am to CCTider
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I would think Cal would be the biggest supporter of basketball going to a baseball like draft system. Guys like Lebron shouldn't have to wait. And if they aren't ready to go straight out of high school, then they should spend 2-3 years on campus.
I'd LOVE to see this for basketball.
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