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re: Another scenerio with State and Ole Miss
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:48 am to Powell
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:48 am to Powell
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From a Neal McReady tweet: "What will happen? Again, no one knows. On Friday night alone, I talked to one national media member (no, not Dan Wolken) who said he believes Lewis’ recruiting is ultimately going to result in devastating sanctions against both Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Another national media member (again, not Wolken) said he believed the COI was not happy with the enforcement staff for putting them in this position. Finally, a person with intimate knowledge of the case continued to wonder if Lewis might simply not show up in Covington, allowing all sides to basically walk away from this entire saga with a modicum of victory and a minimum of fallout."
Oh please! Do you do standup comedy? I would pay to hear this in a club with a mixed drink and an Appetizer.
I have no idea who writes your stuff.
In my mind you stand at the mike with a spotlight in an otherwise dark club and do this straight faced....
Hit me again bro.
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:49 am to DBU
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Jesus. How does Bjork still have a job
He goes before ANOTHER COI in 2 weeks. About to get his 3RD program on probation or worse. What other AD in the country would still have a job?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:51 am to Vecchio Cane
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no one is currently under investigation
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There are no active investigations
You're trying too hard
Show me in his post where you pulled that quote from:
"There are no scenarios involving another team and Ole Miss... you guys are fricked. Own it. embrace it. Understand that anything that is being written by the OM homer media is trying to get out in front of something bad. Stop trying to deflect. Tell your homer sportswriters to stop deflecting. demand the the bullshite to stop... then the rest of the world might give a f or maybe even believe you sometime 10 years down the road when you guys have something to say"
Pay attention Vecchio - you're better than that.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:55 am to Ancient Astronaut
"I'm hearing Ole Miss gets a slap on the wrist and the rant melts"
No, Ole Miss will have serious sanctions. It'll most likely be the self-imposed sanctions with a few extra scholarships thrown in. Academic fraud is serious. Barney may also get a show cause. The one-year bowl ban will most likely stay, but don't look for more than that. The punishment likely won't be as bad as what's being described in social media, but these self-imposed sanctions are not a slap on the wrist. I understand the level of separation between the COI and the NCAA Enforcement is continuing to grow, but nobody knows for sure what's going to happen.
No, Ole Miss will have serious sanctions. It'll most likely be the self-imposed sanctions with a few extra scholarships thrown in. Academic fraud is serious. Barney may also get a show cause. The one-year bowl ban will most likely stay, but don't look for more than that. The punishment likely won't be as bad as what's being described in social media, but these self-imposed sanctions are not a slap on the wrist. I understand the level of separation between the COI and the NCAA Enforcement is continuing to grow, but nobody knows for sure what's going to happen.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:55 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Show me in his post where you pulled that quote from
I pulled both from YOUR post
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:55 am to Pickle_Weasel
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So, are you now saying that Leo Lewis and his mom are both liars?
Are you saying they aren't? The burden of proof to show that Leo Lewis is a liar is on Ole Miss, not MSU. The NCAA has already looked into MSU/Leo Lewis and closed the case. Anything coming for MSU (or LSU) in this matter is the pipiest of pipe dreams.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:58 am to Whereisomaha
quote:It's because this stuff is supposed to be confidential and obviously OM is leaking it which hurts them with respect to the NCAA. Why is that so difficult to understand?
I don't understand how in one sentence yall can say leaking this stuff will hurt OM and then say OM put Godfrey up to it
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:58 am to Powell
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I understand the level of separation between the COI and the NCAA Enforcement is continuing to grow,
Great example of a message board rumor making the rounds and people actually starting to believe it.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:00 am to Whereisomaha
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I don't understand how in one sentence yall can say leaking this stuff will hurt OM and then say OM put Godfrey up to it. This same story could have come out after the ruling came down. If OM got killed this is what they would want. If this does nothing to help OM why would OM leak this out? Yall keep contradicting yourselves to fit a narrative while avoiding what was actual revealed.
Nobody is saying that Ole Miss is trying to protect themselves by leaking this stuff. Your people know it's going to get ugly. It's about shaping public perception and advancing a narrative that the NCAA is bullying and that MSU is behind it. Anyone who believes that is naive, but if it helps you guys sleep at night to think that it's all the NCAA and MSU's fault, then more power to you.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:00 am to BiscuitEater
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Read this ..
Yeah, yall have been linking that rag all weekend. Once again, and im not saying OM didn't leak it, but if this hurts OM then why leak it? If it does nothing to help OM, why leak it? Why is OM leaking it the story for yall and not the actual contents of the article?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:03 am to Drebin
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Anyone who believes that is naive
You don't think the ncaa saying we believe leo when he says OM paid him but when he says the school in which he plays for paid him, we don't believe that, and even though we told him if he lies to us he looses his eligibility, and we believe he is lying to us about being paid by MSU, we are going to let him keep his eligibility, punish OM and not MSU. After all of that it is naive of us to believe OM is being treated unfairly or are we naive to believe what is in the actual transcripts?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:03 am to Powell
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No, Ole Miss will have serious sanctions. It'll most likely be the self-imposed sanctions with a few extra scholarships thrown in. Academic fraud is serious. Barney may also get a show cause. The one-year bowl ban will most likely stay, but don't look for more than that. The punishment likely won't be as bad as what's being described in social media, but these self-imposed sanctions are not a slap on the wrist. I understand the level of separation between the COI and the NCAA Enforcement is continuing to grow, but nobody knows for sure what's going to happen.
The sanctions Ole Miss self-imposed are laughably weak for the volume of wrongdoing. Hell, it's laughably weak if you just were cited for the ACT fraud. 11 over 4? 1 year bowl ban? You realize you're going to get cited for LOIC, right? The NCAA is going to at least triple your scholarship cuts, and give you at least one more year bowl ban.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:09 am to Whereisomaha
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You don't think the ncaa saying we believe leo when he says OM paid him but when he says the school in which he plays for paid him, we don't believe that, and even though we told him if he lies to us he looses his eligibility, and we believe he is lying to us about being paid by MSU, we are going to let him keep his eligibility, punish OM and not MSU. After all of that it is naive of us to believe OM is being treated unfairly or are we naive to believe what is in the actual transcripts?
This is one of the biggest lies perpetuated by you guys since the Godfrey piece came out. The NCAA didn't say they believe Leo Lewis isn't credible when it comes to MSU. They said the EVIDENCE found during the investigation wasn't credible. That is a huge difference.
You know, kinda like when Laremy Tunsil said over an open mic on ESPN draft night that he received cash from a coach? Did that allegation show up in the NOA? No, because the NCAA couldn't find evidence that was credible enough to include it. If it's in the NOA, it is iron-clad, not just a "he's credible on this point, but not on that one." This is what you guys are missing, and it's why the reaction when sanctions come down are going to be so fun to watch.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:14 am to Vecchio Cane
Nope, nowhere did I say "no one is currently under investigation". That's a quote you made up. Good job at deflecting, however.
Leo says MSU paid him.
Leo's mother said MSU offered him money.
Leo says MSU paid him.
Leo's mother said MSU offered him money.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:22 am to Pickle_Weasel
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Nope, nowhere did I say "no one is currently under investigation". That's a quote you made up. Good job at deflecting, however.
I don't know or care who said it. I quoted it from your post.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:23 am to Drebin
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This is one of the biggest lies perpetuated by you guys since the Godfrey piece came out. The NCAA didn't say they believe Leo Lewis isn't credible when it comes to MSU. They said the EVIDENCE found during the investigation wasn't credible. That is a huge difference.
Y'all completely lack common sense or looking at things from a general stand point. You don't think Leo can prove that state paid him? So if he can do that and the NCAA says there isn't enough evidence, it is proof that the NCAA does not care about state paying him. How is that not showing the agenda of the investigators?
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:33 am to Whereisomaha
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You don't think the ncaa saying we believe leo when he says OM paid him but when he says the school in which he plays for paid him, we don't believe that,
I know you're stupid, but I also know you're not THAT stupid. That's not what the NCAA said. They said they find Leo credible. They said they found no credible evidence to support his statement that MSU paid him (if you believe Godfrey actually quoted the real transcripts AND MSU is the redacted University). They quickly opened, AND CLOSED, an investigation into [redacted] University after finding no evidence. You know why they found nothing? They didn't want to find anything. Neither Leo nor [redacted] University are their target. Your crap hole University (unredacted - Ole Miss) is. You're fricked. We're cleared. Deal with it.
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:33 am to Whereisomaha
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This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:33 am to Whereisomaha
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You don't think Leo can prove that state paid him?
Think?
Can?
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noun: evidence
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
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WIO still white-knighting as OMs defense team. Casting reasonable doubt on tRant won't do y'all any good , counselor
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:07 pm to TonyMontana
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They didn't want to find anything. Neither Leo nor [redacted] University are their target. Your crap hole University (unredacted - Ole Miss) is. You're fricked. We're cleared. Deal with it.
This is literally what I just said. They do not care MSU cheated. They only care OM did. This is what we are bitching about.
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