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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:59 am to
Oh I forgot. You guys have the best team in the history of the world.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:01 am to
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Oh I forgot. You guys have the best team in the history of the world.

I never would have guessed the best team in history would have lost to Iowa State, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:01 am to
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And that great stat is mainly due to the balance of run pass. If your LB is committing to the run only, it will be exploited.


This... doesn't make any sense? Roquan's assignment is to cover the RB out of the backfield, be it on running plays or pass plays (safety valves, wheel routes, screens, etc). The only way Oklahoma can "exploit" that assignment is if y'all really think your RBs are going to beat Roquan in that assignment straight up. And if that's what y'all are going on then I think UGA would take that bet every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Georgia is probably going to play a 2-4-5 most of the game if I had to guess, wherein Roquan spies the RB (both in true run defense and in pass coverage) leaving Reggie Carter, Lorenzo Carter, and Davin Bellamy to rush the passer, contain Mayfield, and try to cover Andrews over the middle. My guess is Bellamy and Reggie rush/play contain with the 2 DL and Zo's size and athleticism is left to compete with Andrews over the middle.

In instances where OU uses a no back set, Roquan will be blitzing to try to force Mayfield into a quick throw or a sack.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:03 am to
Shhh don't go into x's and o's with them, you'll just get a "lulz Baker tGOOOOOAT" response.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:04 am to
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So he does have coverage assignments.....


Of course he has coverage assignments. When the back flares out for a pass (screen, wheel, dump off) he covers the back. When Mayfield goes PA with the back, Roquan reads and reacts to the back, freeing up the rest of the defense to read and react to their assignments.

How hard is this to understand?
Posted by SoonerWin
Member since Dec 2017
317 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Oh I forgot. You guys have the best team in the history of the world.



Nah, the defense takes them out of that conversation..I was only referring to what happens when we have the ball

Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:07 am to
I mean if you want to blindly assume your team is just going to be better and win then fine, be that sort of fan. But don't also blindly tell others that are presenting retorts that they're wrong just because it flies in the face of your baseless generalization of the game.

That's not trolling, it's just stupidity for stupidity's sake.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:11 am to
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This... doesn't make any sense? Roquan's assignment is to cover the RB out of the backfield, be it on running plays or pass plays (safety valves, wheel routes, screens, etc). The only way Oklahoma can "exploit" that assignment is if y'all really think your RBs are going to beat Roquan in that assignment straight up. And if that's what y'all are going on then I think UGA would take that bet every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Georgia is probably going to play a 2-4-5 most of the game if I had to guess, wherein Roquan spies the RB (both in true run defense and in pass coverage) leaving Reggie Carter, Lorenzo Carter, and Davin Bellamy to rush the passer, contain Mayfield, and try to cover Andrews over the middle. My guess is Bellamy and Reggie rush/play contain with the 2 DL and Zo's size and athleticism is left to compete with Andrews over the middle.

In instances where OU uses a no back set, Roquan will be blitzing to try to force Mayfield into a quick throw or a sack.



His inability to comprehend basic football is funny.

I come on here to read and share.
Not teach 3rd graders that a running back can be an eligible receiver.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by SoonerWin
Member since Dec 2017
317 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:11 am to
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This... doesn't make any sense? Roquan's assignment is to cover the RB out of the backfield, be it on running plays or pass plays .


One of Oklahomas strengths is play action...It doesn't take much to freeze the LB's, this CAN put our TE or a receiver on a path at full speed that puts them in a position where your LB USED to be, before he finds himself backpeddling to catch up with the receiver. I've witnessed this several times this year.

That's what I meant by exploiting a LB that chooses to spy the RB game only. I've witnessed it happen this year.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:11 am to
Nice sig quote, durden
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8674 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:12 am to
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I've watched Baker for three seasons. I know what he is. Georgia does not.


I like how you believe that you have watched more game film of Baker Mayfield and OU than UGA has.

They get paid for this dude. They frickin' know a lot about OU.
Posted by Jett
Member since Dec 2017
15 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:14 am to
Big 12 Speed vs SEC. Fyi, OBO is a bigger and faster version of Stryker. No flag? lol



Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:14 am to
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One of Oklahomas strengths is play action...It doesn't take much to freeze the LB's, this CAN put our TE or a receiver on a path at full speed that puts them in a position where your LB USED to be, before he finds himself backpeddling to catch up with the receiver. I've witnessed this several times this year.



Roquan won't be covering your tight end. He will be knocking the crap out of your tailback as he gets in Mayfield's face.

Aaron Davis and Lorenzo Carter will be splitting duties on your Mackey award winner.

Your TE will get his. I don't have any doubts about that. But if he is the only one, we win.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:21 am to
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One of Oklahomas strengths is play action...t doesn't take much to freeze the LB's, this CAN put our TE or a receiver on a path at full speed that puts them in a position where your LB USED to be, before he finds himself backpeddling to catch up with the receiver.


Yeah... It's been the staple of Georgia's offense for the better part of 20 years. We (and our Defense) know how it works.

What makes Roquan special in that respect is that he is abnormally fast physically and diagnoses plays quickly. Not to say that Mayfield may not catch him and the UGA defense off guard on occasion (that's just the caliber that Mayfield and the OU offense is) but it's not going to be as easy as it has been facing other defenses this year.

quote:

That's what I meant by exploiting a LB that chooses to spy the RB game only. I've witnessed it happen this year.


But that's not taking into consideration that just because the RB doesn't get handed the ball on a PA fake doesn't mean he (and by extension the LB) are now out of the play. Auburn and South Carolina have made a killing over the years on that exact fake where the QB then looks downfield and either identifies his check downs or simply looks off the safety before going back to the RB in the flat or tearing arse up the sideline on the wheel route. Roquan spying the RB eliminates that option which, then, forces Mayfield to either throw it away, eat it with a sack, or improvise with his feet. Granted, Mayfield is quite good at the latter but UGA has to choose the lower percentage option for OU success which means taking away the big play from the RB.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:21 am to
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Nice sig quote, durden


I may have taken some liberties with the original version
Posted by SoonerWin
Member since Dec 2017
317 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:22 am to
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Roquan won't be covering your tight end. He will be knocking the crap out of your tailback as he gets in Mayfield's face.


Right, but the point is, and the point I was initially trying to make , is OU is very adept and having the receiver catch the ball where any given DB USED to be...So burning your DB on a pass play because he may have cheated to the line thinking run is as effective as avoiding a run play at the guy,etc.

Here is a video example of what I'm talking about...notice the DB's cheat to the line as Baker fakes not one but TWO handoffs before zipping it in to Andrews...

And another amazing example of the brilliant playcalling...the video below is the single, one and only solitary time Baker ever thru the ball from under center. 100% shotgun the entire season. Impressive.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3376 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:22 am to
If Andrews gets his this will be a bad day for uga
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46628 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:26 am to
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Here is a video example of what I'm talking about...notice the DB's cheat to the line as Baker fakes not one but TWO handoffs before zipping it in to Andrews...


I wonder if Kirby Smart, Mel Tucker, and their army of analysts have ever seen this...
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:27 am to
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Right, but the point is, and the point I was initially trying to make , is OU is very adept and having the receiver catch the ball where any given DB USED to be...

Here is a video example of what I'm talking about...notice the DB's cheat to the line as Baker fakes not one but TWO handoffs before zipping it in to Andrews...


I don't think you know what your point is anymore.

First... that is a safety on Andrews. Not an inside linebacker (why you keep bringing up your tight end up over and over with regards to Roquan Smith is beyond me).

Second, Andrews starts out to the corner of the end zone and then cuts back inside. A very good route which puts the DB out of position (not the play action).
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:28 am to
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If Andrews gets his this will be a bad day for uga


Agree to disagree.

If Andrews is the only good/great player on offense for OU, then UGA wins.
Andrews will get his 100+ yards. The rest of your offense will be the question mark.
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