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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:32 am to meansonny
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:32 am to meansonny
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ot an inside linebacker (why you keep bringing up your tight end up over and over with regards to Roquan Smith is beyond me). Second, Andrews starts out to the corner of the end zone and then cuts back inside. A very good route which puts the DB out of position (not the play action).
It may have ended up that way, but all across the LB's set, they were all cheating towards the line expecting run...The specifics here do not negate the point...I have others I can show you, but this was a pretty good example of the danger of a run-spy-only linebacker I think..
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:34 am to tylerdurden24
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I wonder if Kirby Smart, Mel Tucker, and their army of analysts have ever seen this...
If I were a coach, Id've disected EVERY single play of the season...from multiple angles mind you , of Georgia. ;)
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:35 am to SoonerWin
I'm glad you are giving the game plan away for free. I'm sure UGa had no idea of what to do prior to reading this! 
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:36 am to meansonny
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If Andrews is the only good/great player on offense for OU, then UGA wins.
ZERO chance of that being the case. None.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:38 am to cabby836
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I'm glad you are giving the game plan away for free. I'm sure UGa had no idea of what to do prior to reading this!
LOL...If they missed THAT play, which was plastered all over the game highlights media, then you may have bigger problems LOL.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:41 am to SoonerWin
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LOL...If they missed THAT play, which was plastered all over the game highlights media, then you may have bigger problems LOL.
Holy balls your sarcasm detector is broken.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:45 am to meansonny
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Agree to disagree.
If Andrews is the only good/great player on offense for OU, then UGA wins.
Andrews will get his 100+ yards. The rest of your offense will be the question mark.
Case in point: Hayden Hurst for South Carolina. UGA sold out to stop everything Carolina brought except Hurst who was a matchup nightmare for most every team he played this year. When you have to defend a guy like that, you play the odds that a TE alone is not going to win the game. Hurst had a good day but Carolina still lost by 14.
Obviously OU is not Carolina and will present a different challenge outside of Andrews but UGA's defensive brain trust gets a month and a pretty good personnel group to try to solve that problem with.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:49 am to SoonerWin
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It may have ended up that way, but all across the LB's set, they were all cheating towards the line expecting run...The specifics here do not negate the point...I have others I can show you, but this was a pretty good example of the danger of a run-spy-only linebacker I think..
You're also addressing this play in a vacuum. As you said, it was the one time Mayfield seemed to start out under center (a pretty big tell that the play is hinged on misdirection). It was also a redzone defense situation. TCU had to play the odds that a run was coming given the short yardage. Andrews simply did his job by running a good route on the boundary of the endzone and the misdirection bought him time to find an open window from the safety.
It's a different route and set of circumstances if that play is run from OU's 40 or even UGA's 35 yard line.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:49 am to tylerdurden24
Andrews probably is option 1, but Marquise Brown is burner outside...'We' actually have a 2nd tight end, Calcaveccia that may be even better than Andrews, or as good...
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Personally, I hope CeeDee Lamb emerges again. He was a star the first few games and then just disappeared. Talented receiver.
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Personally, I hope CeeDee Lamb emerges again. He was a star the first few games and then just disappeared. Talented receiver.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:53 am to SoonerWin
I mean that's fine, we have 3 or 4 SEC caliber TEs as well. But a TE isn't that hard to diagnose: he's either going to stay in as a 6th blocker or try to slip off the line. If he splits out wide (like we do with Isaac Nauta form time to time) then you play him as you would a WR. Of course, this presents a matchup problem for a smaller corner or a slower LB which is where your preparation and experience comes into play on the pre-snap reads. Fortunately for UGA, we have 2 fairly athletic senior OLBs.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:56 am to SoonerWin
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Where did you get your information that the rest of the line is anywhere near being considered a 'weak link'? ...Allow me to assist you:
PFF
Pro Football Focus, look em up. Both tackles are considered NFL ready. Your interior OL is clearly the weak link of your offense. They all rank as "good" but no where near the level of the rest of your offense.
And don't bring some preseason bullshite link in here to prove your point. That's bush league.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:56 am to tylerdurden24
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But a TE isn't that hard to diagnose
You'd think that, two options usually as you say, stay in to block or typically an over the middle route. Andrews isn't the fastest guy but he has a knack for getting open running unorthodox routes.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:59 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Your interior OL is clearly the weak link of your offense. They all rank as "good" but no where near the level of the rest of your offense.
eh. When you have a potential 1st round lock, the natural assumption for SOME people is that everyone is sub par by comparison. I don't really but it though. Of course they aren't on the same level as the higher PRO prospects, but this isn't the pros, and over the course of the season, the whole line has protected Baker well and the run blocking was good too.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:08 am to CharlotteSooner
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Malik Jefferson isn't going in the 3rd round, dicknose. He's too big and too athletic. Early 2nd round. Bookmark that.
He's also been the most blockable linebacker in college football the last 3 seasons.
He'll be drafted on measurables. And it'll be too high.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:10 am to tylerdurden24
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You're also addressing this play in a vacuum.
Well is there any other way to illustrate it? You can nitpick the specifics but it's fairly simple....DB charged with stopping run could potentially get burned on a pass if he bites on play action. Baker reads the freeze or cheat to the line, and hits receiver in stride as he passes the DB. Nothing new there, but that was the point.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:17 am to tylerdurden24
quote:no using play action to create a void behind the linebackers is truly revolutionary stuff that has never been tried outside of Norman OK.
I wonder if Kirby Smart, Mel Tucker, and their army of analysts have ever seen this...
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:18 am to SoonerWin
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When you have a potential 1st round lock, the natural assumption for SOME people is that everyone is sub par by comparison.
Do you even know what PFF is?
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Of course they aren't on the same level as the higher PRO prospects, but this isn't the pros
No shite. But they aren't even above average. And your center and RG got poor grades for pass protection which doesn't bode well against our inside stunts.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:20 am to UncleFestersLegs
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no using play action to create a void behind the linebackers is truly revolutionary stuff that has never been tried outside of Norman OK.
lol , it was actually just an illustration of ONE the potential pitfalls of having your star LB's primary directive be the run game, as a couple dudes in this thread seem to be pointing out was most concerned with..
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:24 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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No shite. But they aren't even above average. And your center and RG got poor grades for pass protection which doesn't bode well against our inside stunts.
Well, I dunno what game those scouts were watching lol..I watched every snap of the season, and for the most part the protection was solid. But I will admit, the plays that broke down, I wasn't paying as close attention to the O line breakdown (on pass plays) as I was to how Baker usually got out of the jam..
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:26 am to SoonerWin
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Well, I dunno what game those scouts were watching lol..I watched every snap of the season, and for the most part the protection was solid. But I will admit, the plays that broke down, I wasn't paying as close attention to the O line breakdown (on pass plays) as I was to how Baker usually got out of the jam..
I'm a casual fan myself, but these guys are former scouts and what not that get paid to break down game film. It's pretty freaking awesome if you ever get the time and money to go through their website or twitter if you're one of the cool kids.
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