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Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:57 am to StopRobot
Man, so you're content with the current line of vaccines? Wouldn't it be great if someone developed something that gave actual immunity rather than just reduced symptoms? And your link is to an article about redesigning the current vaccines; not about developing a true vaccine.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:57 am to Boat Vol
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You just contradicted yourself.
No he didnt. People who wear seat belts survive car crashes at a much higher rate than people who dont. People who wear seat belts sometimes die in car wrecks
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:58 am to EasterEgg
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Man, so you're content with the current line of vaccines? Wouldn't it be great if someone developed something that gave actual immunity rather than just reduced symptoms? And your link is to an article about redesigning the current vaccines; not about developing a true vaccine.
Correct. The current vaccines were developed on the back of decades of research. Any new vaccine will be developed the same way. What do you define as a true vaccine? Like can you give an example
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:59 am to Boat Vol
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You just contradicted yourself.
Only if you can’t grasp that there’s a difference between sterilizing vaccines and non-sterilizing vaccines.
Do you think polio, chickenpox, whooping cough vaccines don’t work because they don’t prevent anyone from contracting those viruses 100%?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:59 am to StopRobot
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wear seat belts
There's no chance I get sick from this...
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:00 am to BamaGradinTn
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99% of the people in hospitals and dying are unvaccinated.
Okay
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:01 am to BluegrassBelle
Political Talk: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK
Vaccine works like a charm.
Vaccine works like a charm.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:02 am to BluegrassBelle
While you’re not technically wrong from a medical perspective, it’s the colloquial definition of vaccine coupled with how much it’s penetrating the worlds cultural zeitgeist that’s the major issue here, at least from my perspective. It’s how you get insane rants like the one earlier in this thread blaming the world for his own unfortunate circumstances.
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:02 am to EasterEgg
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Wouldn't it be great if someone developed something that gave actual immunity rather than just reduced symptoms?
You are developing immunity if your symptoms are reduced by a vaccine.
Natural immunity doesn’t 100% prevent you from contracting some viruses again either but it’s still immunity because your immune response creates a situation that reduces your ability for it to be more severe if you catch it again. See almost every virus kids catch in pre-school/K as they’re building their immune system.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:04 am to StopRobot
quote:vaccines.
Correct. The current vaccines were developed on the back of decades of research. Any new vaccine will be developed the same way. What do you define as a true vaccine? Like can you give an example
Decades of research, yet they are far less effective than other common vaccines that we take as children. All I'm saying is that I hope at least one of the big pharma companies is still working on something different from what is currently being peddled.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:06 am to EasterEgg
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All I'm saying is that I hope at least one of the big pharma companies is still working on something different from what is currently being peddled.
No need to.
They're making their money off the current garbage they're pushing.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:06 am to td01241
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While you’re not technically wrong from a medical perspective, it’s the colloquial definition of vaccine coupled with how much it’s penetrating the worlds cultural zeitgeist that’s the major issue here, at least from my perspective. It’s how you get insane rants like the one earlier in this thread blaming the world for his own unfortunate circumstances.
I would argue if you bought into the narrative that vaccines are only sterilizing vaccines you either were taught poorly in science class or you’re getting your information from journalists who poorly interpret and report medical studies/data.
We can trace back the gross misinformation on many medical issues, treatments, etc. (outside of just vaccines or COVID) to not understanding how to actually read research and the inability to critically look past a layman’s interpretation of information. But we could have a very long, arduous discussion on how we got to that point.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:12 am to Boat Vol
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Political Talk: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK
Vaccine works like a charm.
Your source is a nutcase conspiracy theorist who also doubts that fluoride prevents tooth decay. You can see how it is misleading here:
LINK -/
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:12 am to Boat Vol
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No need to.
They're making their money off the current garbage they're pushing.
So why are doctors vaccinated at a higher rate than any other occupation? Are they pushing garbage?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:15 am to BluegrassBelle
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But you can still catch polio with the polio vaccine. It just reduces the rate in which you can transmit. COVID vaccines do that as well, as someone who is vaccinated that is infected has a shorter timeframe off higher transmission than someone that is unvaccinated. We can argue about mandates all day. And that’s fine. But acting like it doesn’t work or isn’t a vaccine because you can still contract the virus is simply untrue.
You are using two massively different scenarios to try and connect the polio vax and this “vax”.
There hasn’t been a wild polio case in the Western Hemisphere since 1991. Polio is just about globally eradicated.
Nobody in the US is out here catching polio even with the vaccine. With all the air travel back and forth to Africa/Asia you would see people coming back into the US with polio. That’s literally not happening.
More people with the Covid vax got the virus yesterday than probably the past 40 years of polio.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:15 am to Drebin
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While those stories are sad, they are statistically insignificant.
Yeah, the issue here is it's not a low number. It's a number many Drs have been trying to get out but media refuses to report on. I know.. I know... "conspiracy theories".
Well, so was the experiments on the Tuskegee men for 30 plus years.
So was MKUltra. It still is to many many people even thought the Gov now admits it too.
In fact, testimony states that we knew in DEC of 2020 that the vaccine was killing people and cause major side effects. Enough evidence that under normal rules, the vaccine would have been shut down in Jan.
But you do you.
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Tens of millions of people have safely been vaccinated.
No... They have been given a shot.
No, we don't know the long term effects. Living does not mean healthy.
We have had 834,529 adverse reactions to ALL vaccines combined since 1990 EXCLUDING this one. This vaccine has 818,044 adverse reactions since Dec 2020.
Let's keep with that. Column 1 is Covid Vaccine. Column 2 all.. ALL Vaccines from 1990 until now:
Number of Life-Threatening Events 18,924 13,689
Number of Hospitalizations 83,412 78,854
Number of Deaths 17,128* 9,183
# of Permanent Disabilities after vaccination 26,199 19,765
Number of Office Visits 127,640 45,264
With no longer term effects known. Just current data.
*Note that the total number of deaths associated with the COVID-19 vaccines is greater than the number of deaths associated with all other vaccines combined since the year 1990.
[img]*Note that the total number of deaths associated with the COVID-19 vaccines is greater than the number of deaths associated with all other vaccines combined since the year 1990.[/img]
Need more?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:17 am to StopRobot
I’m not sure this is the gotcha you think it is. Speaking as someone in psychiatry most doctors everywhere, especially those not in private practice, will be having a pretty rough time if they haven’t taken it. You’re also opening yourself to an endless number of potential legal disputes if you are someone in private practice or able to escape mandates otherwise, the consequences of which are currently a vast sea of unknown and could be anywhere from insignificant to back breaking. There’s no real choice. This is the issue ffs.
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:18 am to Ted2010
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Let msu fire leach and shite will hit the fan
The Institutions of Higher Learning (IHL) resolution requires all employees of Mississippi’s public universities to be fully vaccinated by Dec. 8.
If Ole Miss pushes MSU's shite in on November 25th and the Bulldogs finish 5-7, nobody in Starkville is going to care what happens to Leach.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:19 am to Frac the world
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You are using two massively different scenarios to try and connect the polio vax and this “vax”. There hasn’t been a wild polio case in the Western Hemisphere since 1991. Polio is just about globally eradicated. Nobody in the US is out here catching polio even with the vaccine. With all the air travel back and forth to Africa/Asia you would see people coming back into the US with polio. That’s literally not happening. More people with the Covid vax got the virus yesterday than probably the past 40 years of polio.
That doesn’t make this vaccine any less of a vaccine.
And still doesn’t make the polio vaccine a sterilizing vaccine. Polio is just about globally eradicated because of years of vaccination. We reduced viable hosts by doing so.
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