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Analysis of Texas Football "All-Time"
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:49 pm
At a glance, Texas football appears to be one of the all-time elites, a "blueblood" if you will.
Consider the following against all teams:
Wins 923 4th, Win% .704 7th, Bowl games 57 2nd, Conf Champs 30 8th
However, 2 rankings don't fit the blueblood tier
Bowl Win% .561 24th and Nat Championships (Claimed) 4 16th
After researching further, Texas was in the SW Conference from 1915 to 1996 with the following teams: Arkansas, Baylor, Rice, Texas A&M, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, and for the final 20 years Houston. It appears to me that Texas racked up easy conference wins, padding their win and win% stats, but were more of a "good" team than a "blueblood" when the bowl games were played.
Throw in games with Bama, LSU, Tenn, Ga, Florida, Auburn instead of SWC opponents and I think it is clear what Texas' true all-time standing is: a historically good team.
Consider the following against all teams:
Wins 923 4th, Win% .704 7th, Bowl games 57 2nd, Conf Champs 30 8th
However, 2 rankings don't fit the blueblood tier
Bowl Win% .561 24th and Nat Championships (Claimed) 4 16th
After researching further, Texas was in the SW Conference from 1915 to 1996 with the following teams: Arkansas, Baylor, Rice, Texas A&M, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, and for the final 20 years Houston. It appears to me that Texas racked up easy conference wins, padding their win and win% stats, but were more of a "good" team than a "blueblood" when the bowl games were played.
Throw in games with Bama, LSU, Tenn, Ga, Florida, Auburn instead of SWC opponents and I think it is clear what Texas' true all-time standing is: a historically good team.
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:51 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Eh, Arkansas was a powerhouse for many years. Some of those other squads had their heyday. They also played OU every year.
I think they’re properly rated.
I think they’re properly rated.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:58 pm to PurpleandGeauld
SEC is about to welcome one superpower from the Big 12, not two - Sporting News
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Click on any story, listen to any podcast or watch any television discussion regarding Texas and Oklahoma’s pending move to the SEC, and you will inevitably hear about the blueblood status of the Longhorns and Sooners. College football royalty. Superpowers headed to the strongest conference in the nation. Two of the biggest brands in the game.
Half of that is true.
Oklahoma is firmly in college football’s uppercrust. Six straight Big 12 titles. Four college football playoff appearances. Fifteen top 10 finishes since 2000. Seven Heismans, including four this century.
Texas? Not so much.
Sure, Texas has money, slick uniforms, an awesome logo and is located in a cool city. But the on-field performance does not match the reverence with which the "brand" of Texas is breathlessly discussed.
You know how many Top 10 finishes Texas has in the past 11 years? One. It finished No. 9 in 2018 with a 10-4 record after upsetting Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Texas snapped a 10-year streak of losing at least four regular-season games last season, when it went 6-3.
You know what other schools have one top 10 finish in the past 11 years? Cincinnati. Iowa State, Minnesota. Washington State. Houston. Iowa. Baylor. Mississippi State. Arizona. Missouri. This is who Texas keeps company with nowadays.
You know who has MORE than one top 10 finish over the past 11 years? TCU (4). Stanford (4). Michigan State (3). UCF (2). You know how many SEC teams have more than one? Seven. And that doesn’t include Oklahoma.
Texas was unranked in the final AP poll five straight seasons from 2013 to 2017. Does that sound like royalty?
Yes, Mack Brown had an amazing nine-year run of excellence from 2001 to 2009. Six top 10 finishes. An unforgettable national championship with Vince Young. Wins in the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Cotton Bowl.
But there was another long era of mediocrity before that. If you look at the 1984-2000 stretch, Texas was again just another program. Zero top 10 finishes. Ten seasons unranked. Five losing seasons.
The Longhorns have one national championship in the past 50 years. That matches the totals of BYU, Washington, Georgia Tech and Pittsburgh. No one in the Twittersphere is throwing the word "blueblood" around when talking about those programs.
Folks can say what they want about the SEC getting the Texas prestige or brand or tradition or money or footprint. What it is also getting, outside of that Mack Brown stretch, is a football team that usually isn’t all that great.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:25 pm to TexasTiger08
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Eh, Arkansas was a powerhouse for many years. Some of those other squads had their heyday.
Baylor 79-27
A&M 76-37
Rice 73-21
TCU 63-27
Arkansas 56-22
Texas Tech 53-17
SMU 47-22
447-173 against SWC teams. They basically destroyed (usually) weaker teams and racked wins and conf champs. Sure Arkansas had some runs back then, but no one else there was much more than a bump in the road. In the SEC there are always 3 or 4 good teams to battle with.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:28 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Yeah, that's what we've been trying to tell y'all.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:38 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Revisionist history is always tricky. Sure in 2021 if you look at the current state of some of the former SWC teams you think mediocrity. But all around the SWC had some great teams. It can be argued from the late 1960's through the mid 1980's it may have been the best overall football conference .
SMU,Arkansas,TCU and A&M had some really good teams from time to time during the SWC's run. Even Rice was a top 10 program in the 1940's and had good teams in the 1930's and 1950's,too. Houston had some outstanding teams in the late 1970s's when they first entered. Heck, SWC runner up Baylor beat unbeaten SEC Champ Tennessee in the 1957 Sugar Bowl.
No one ,well except some of these new clowns posting here,think they are top 4 today, but historically they are indeed top 10 and very well could be 5 or 6.
SMU,Arkansas,TCU and A&M had some really good teams from time to time during the SWC's run. Even Rice was a top 10 program in the 1940's and had good teams in the 1930's and 1950's,too. Houston had some outstanding teams in the late 1970s's when they first entered. Heck, SWC runner up Baylor beat unbeaten SEC Champ Tennessee in the 1957 Sugar Bowl.
No one ,well except some of these new clowns posting here,think they are top 4 today, but historically they are indeed top 10 and very well could be 5 or 6.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:59 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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447-173 against SWC teams. They basically destroyed (usually) weaker teams and racked wins and conf champs. Sure Arkansas had some runs back then, but no one else there was much more than a bump in the road. In the SEC there are always 3 or 4 good teams to battle with.
Since 1960, Texas has 15 1 loss or better seasons..
1961 - #1 Texas Lost to UR TCU
1962 - #4 Texas Lost to #7 LSU in Cotton Bowl
1963 - NC
1964 - #1 Texas Lost to #8 Arkansas
1968 - #6 Texas Lost to UR Texas Tech
1969 - NC
1970 - NC
1972 - #10 Texas Lost to #2 Oklahoma
1977 - #1 Texas Lost to #5 Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl
1981 - #1 Texas Lost to UR Arkansas
1983 - #2 Texas Lost to #7 Georgia in Cotton Bowl
(wandering desert)
2004 - #5 Texas Lost to #2 Oklahoma
2005 - NC
2008 - #1 Texas Lost to #6 Texas Tech (Crabtree)
2009 - #2 Texas Lost to #1 Alabama in Rose Bowl
(wandering desert)
For comparison, 1 loss or better seasons by decade:
1960s Alabama 5 Texas 6
1970s Alabama 7 Texas 3
1980s Alabama 0 Texas 2
1990s Alabama 2 Texas 0
2000s Alabama 1 Texas 4
2010s Alabama 6 Texas 0
2020s Alabama 1 Texas 0
Alabama only had 3 from 1980 to 2009.
Texas only had 4 from 1990 to 2019.
Alabama woke up and became a beast.. That is unlikely to ever be matched by anyone, but it is time for Texas to stop wandering the desert.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:03 pm to PurpleandGeauld
This is where we are. I just upvoted an LSU post, and it wasn't even Wolfhound45.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:04 pm to TexasTiger08
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I think they’re properly rated.
They're not a blue blood.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:05 pm to BigBro
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but it is time for Texas to stop wandering the desert.
And follow the path charted by their smarter, stronger, and more impressive bigger brother Texas A&M.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:20 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Texas will be searching for a new conference in five years. They should have great success in Conference USA.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:54 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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And follow the path charted by their smarter, stronger, and more impressive bigger brother Texas A&M.
Better Football - Texas
Record Texas leads 76-37-5
1 Loss Seasons by Decade
1960s Texas 6 A&M 0
1970s Texas 3 A&M 0
1980s Texas 2 A&M 0
1990s Texas 0 A&M 2
2000s Texas 4 A&M 0
2010s Texas 0 A&M 0
2020s Texas 0 A&M 1
Total Texas 15 A&M 3
10 Win Seasons by Decade
1960s Texas 4 A&M 0
1970s Texas 4 A&M 2
1980s Texas 2 A&M 2
1990s Texas 2 A&M 5
2000s Texas 9 A&M 0
2010s Texas 1 A&M 1
Total Texas 22 A&M 10
Better Baseball - Texas
Record: Texas leads 244-126-5
Omaha Appearances - Texas 37 A&M 5
Omaha Wins - Texas 88 A&M 2
National Champs - Texas 6 A&M 0
Average Wins in Omaha - Texas 2.38 A&M 0.40
Texas Averages more Omaha wins per appearance than A&M has won all time..
Better Basketball - Texas
Record: Texas leads 138-86
Elite 8 - Texas 7 A&M 0
Final 4 - Texas 3 A&M 0
Better Academics - Texas
You can look up the rankings for yourself.. I have never seen A&M listed higher than Texas, unless it is for a specific field of study.. ie Vet School.
But you can keep telling the lies if it makes you feel better.. but it doesn’t change the facts.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:54 pm to BigBro
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:56 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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447-173 against SWC teams. They basically destroyed (usually) weaker teams and racked wins and conf champs. Sure Arkansas had some runs back then, but no one else there was much more than a bump in the road. In the SEC there are always 3 or 4 good teams to battle with.
Aggy held their own during the FedEx years...
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:44 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Stfu..
Texas is 16-12 in major bowls
#6 win % vs ranked teams (final ranking)
87-69 vs blue bloods
191-92 vs SEC teams
Texas is 16-12 in major bowls
#6 win % vs ranked teams (final ranking)
87-69 vs blue bloods
191-92 vs SEC teams
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