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re: Altering a contract without a signature
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:51 am to HailFreezusOver
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:51 am to HailFreezusOver
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Well if that's the case I'm sure charisma signed and initialed with dates and had it notarized....
Notarization is not required for this type of agreement in Louisisana. Also, it isn't fraud for the reasons already stated in this thread. The lawyer responsible will likely not be in any trouble. It might be a black eye, but that happens.
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:54 am to BayouBengals03
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How do you know this is Joe Alleva's fault?
How is the contracts of the football coaches NOT his job? That is probably the single biggest part of his job.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:56 am to RB10
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If the amended contract is voided, won't they just enforce the terms of the original? Which, in this case, are exactly the same as the amended.
It's highly unlikely the judge will void the amended contract.
He's going to take into account what alterations were made and why. He's going to take into account all the subsequent actions of both parties, including the 2013 extension.
If Chavis had up and quit in 2012 the minute he found out about the alteration, that would be one thing. At that very moment, that was the strongest case possible for having the contract voided.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:58 am to BrerTiger
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It's highly unlikely the judge will void the amended contract.
Oh I know. I'm curious what happens if it is voided though.
Do you fall back to the original in that case?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:02 pm to Adam Banks
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How is the contracts of the football coaches NOT his job? That is probably the single biggest part of his job.
No way in hell Joe is a lawyer after the way he handled the Duke situation.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:02 pm to therick711
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This contract has nothing to do with Alleva.
The infamous "Miles clause" did and I guess that's what most of us are remembering as one of the things that set Chavis off re: Alleva. Skipped meeting, who knows what else.
But you're probably right -- the alteration in question probably had nothing at all to do with Alleva.
It's a minor clarification that is probably something the lawyers didn't catch until after it was signed. Fairly benign. Highly doubtful Alleva had anything to do with it.
I have to wonder if Alleva has even tried to settle this matter with Chavis. I can't tell if Chavis is alone being the stubborn one or if Alleva is every bit as stubborn.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:04 pm to RB10
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Do you fall back to the original in that case?
Good question.
I think either way that Chavis is on the hook for something.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:07 pm to Adam Banks
If I was an LSU fan, I would want Joe Alleva fired ASAP.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:13 pm to piggilicious
I'm surprised Alleva still has a job.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:28 pm to BrerTiger
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I have to wonder if Alleva has even tried to settle this matter with Chavis.
From our side sources say he hasn't. He is pissed.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:39 pm to RB10
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I'm really enjoying the rabble getting worked up over this like it's a big deal. It's clear how few people read the article and even fewer seem to comprehend the inconsequential changes that were made.
I'm not worked up about it in the slightest- my team nor coach is involved. I simply thought the wording by the lawyer for LSU was funny.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:52 pm to NYCAuburn
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pretty much, you usually have them at least initial the change to show they are aware of it
This was my thinking as well.
I know some are arguing that the substance was not changed, but is that technically correct. Referring specifically to the dates.
Bottom line, it is embarrassing for LSU.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:05 pm to RB10
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I'm really enjoying the rabble getting worked up over this like it's a big deal. It's clear how few people read the article and even fewer seem to comprehend the inconsequential changes that were made.
Truth.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:07 pm to higgs_boson
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Bottom line, it is embarrassing for LSU.
Um, is anybody arguing that it's not?
I think the point is, embarrassing is as bad as it gets for LSU.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:08 pm to oman
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I think the point is, embarrassing is as bad as it gets for LSU.
Yeah, I do not think anything comes of it.
I just question the wisdom of continuing the lawsuit.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:12 pm to higgs_boson
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I know some are arguing that the substance was not changed, but is that technically correct. Referring specifically to the dates.
"Between the 24th and 36th month"
"Between the first day of the 36th month and the final day of the 24th month"
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:19 pm to oman
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I think the point is, embarrassing is as bad as it gets for LSU.
There is a 0% chance they get the full buyout from Chavis at this point. The judge will force Chavis to pay a lower amount.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:31 pm to Adam Banks
The only thing embarrassing about this thread is the people who got clickbaited by a two-bit journalist. Barton's statement addresses this issue, and an attorney discussed the topic at length in the main thread on the Tiger Rant yesterday.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:46 pm to HailFreezusOver
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Well if that's the case I'm sure charisma signed and initialed with dates and had it notarized.... Oh no?! Then it is fraud. I'd doesn't matter how insignificant you think it is the contract was altered and he did not consent to it by signing. Lsu fricked up and the AD and lawyer responsible are in trouble. I can't believe they are pushing this. I mean the case is being heard in Louisianna but there's no way they can squirm out of this.
There is so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:47 pm to Adam Banks
Bama, UGA, and Smart are showing all y'alls head coaches and administrations how to manage the exit of a highly sought after coordinator to a conference rival. I hope they're taking notes. Chavis calls a aTm recruit while still being paid by LSU and LSU has a fit. Smart gets photoed wearing UGA gear with a UGA recruit, and no one in Tusacloosa gives a shite.
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