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re: All BS aside, what do you think verdict will be?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:53 am to molsusports
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:53 am to molsusports
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Assuming there are either no direct witnesses/proof of money received... or even if there is proof money was demanded or received Johnny can just say the money was asked for or collected by his parents
Technically, he'll have to say he didn't know his parents were receiving the money. The NCAA, unlike a court, is allowed to infer. If Manziel says he knew it was his parents getting money they will likely "infer" they gave him some and it will end poorly for him.
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:53 am to texasaggie08
Well, I for one hope nothing happens.
I also think that even if Johnny is on the team aTm loses 3 games this year. Maybe more. New oline is the biggest reason and everyone will be ready. He has also not put football as a priority.
I also think that even if Johnny is on the team aTm loses 3 games this year. Maybe more. New oline is the biggest reason and everyone will be ready. He has also not put football as a priority.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:54 am to Roger Klarvin
The parents loophole has been closed, FWIW. Parents are now considered agents
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:56 am to molsusports
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The Newton loophole is large enough to get pretty near anyone out of trouble if their school plays hardball.
Closed.
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:57 am to Bama Bird
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The parents loophole has been closed, FWIW. Parents are now considered agents
It's ridiculous that it was ever a loophole to begin with. I mean, I'm all for the players making money, but if you're trying to stop it but then allow the "I didn't know my dad was getting paid" excuse you should probably get out of the policing game.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:58 am to hg
#freetrayvons
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:59 am to dreaux
quote:Hasn't missed anything football related and paid out of pocket to get additional QB training in California from George Whitfield.
He has also not put football as a priority.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:59 am to dreaux
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I also think that even if Johnny is on the team aTm loses 3 games this year. Maybe more.
This is wishful, rivalry-fueled thinking.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:02 am to StorminAg
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Hasn't missed anything football related and paid out of pocket to get additional QB training in California from George Whitfield.
I'm pretty sure his critics could make a much bigger list. And he's probably annoying his teammates if nothing else.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:04 am to TbirdSpur2010
He probably forgot that your hardest ooc opponent is Sam Houston.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:04 am to thefloydian
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And he's probably annoying his teammates if nothing else.
I don't think so. This is more along the lines of what his teammates are saying:
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@JManziel2 let's ball son.All this bs. If you didn't sign a single thing for anybody they would call you a stuck up asswhole but you do be
@JManziel2 nice and sign stuff for ur fans and they say you gettn paid!Lets wreck shop this season bra!lets Give them sum10 else to cry bout
@JManziel2 try this to see what response you get!Don't sign a single item and see how they hate you then!Breaking News"Manziel has no heart"
That's from Floyd Raven (defensive player for A&M). His teammates got his back.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 1:05 am
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:04 am to thefloydian
IDK, a bunch of his teammates are all fired up and defending him on twitter.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:09 am to TbirdSpur2010
Or maybe his teammates are smarter than he is and are choosing not to act stupid on twitter?
If he was my teammate I'd be sick of him by now, and I have a hard time believing there aren't those who don't feel that way. Not saying it's the whole team.
If he was my teammate I'd be sick of him by now, and I have a hard time believing there aren't those who don't feel that way. Not saying it's the whole team.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 1:10 am
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:13 am to dallastiger55
quote:This, this, and more of this.
im going with nothing, i know hes guilty but i dont think NCAA has the balls to bust their golden boy. kid has tons of $$ and they will get him off the hook
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:20 am to thefloydian
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If he was my teammate I'd be sick of him by now, and I have a hard time believing there aren't those who don't feel that way.
Well, that's you, then.
His teammates support him, though. No denying that.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:20 am to thefloydian
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If he was my teammate I'd be sick of him by now, and I have a hard time believing there aren't those who don't feel that way.
If this is your attitude then you either 1. Didn't play any higher level of team sports or 2. Was that guy that whined about pt but not actually good enough to get on the field.
Teammates have each others back whether you like them personally or not.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:21 am to SwampStud051
Thanks for coming out of hibernation to add that
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 1:22 am
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:25 am to dallastiger55
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All BS aside, what do you think verdict will be?
I think it's honestly too early to speculate one way or the other, given that the story is less than 24 hours old. It'll depend on what the NCAA decides is 'sufficient' evidence in this case and what else comes out over the next week or two.
If they can't get anyone to talk, nothing will happen. If they can confirm that money exchanged hands, he gone.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:43 am to SwayzeBalla
I predict nothing. However at the rate he's going it won't be long till another issue will come up. It's inevitable.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 1:48 am to NathanL
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I predict nothing. However at the rate he's going it won't be long till another issue will come up. It's inevitable.
You know, that raises an excellent point.
Given how well he's dealt with pressure and negative publicity so far, has anyone stopped to consider what effect this will have on him? Is he going to go berserk? All-out party blitz, zero fricks given?
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