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re: Alabama should have been taken over TCU

Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:28 am to
Why is everyone forgetting that TCU beat Michigan? If TCU didn't belong, neither did Michigan. If Michigan didn't belong, neither did OSU.

A playoff of UGA, Bama, Tennessee, and LSU would have been fun for us, but the rest of the nation may not have appreciated it and UGA would still be national champs.

I'm also not sure why people suddenly think Bama was great. They were not a great team this year. LSU was average and had little depth and we beat them. Tennessee was a little better than average and they beat them.

Hell, I'm not sure Bama would have gotten past Michigan. At least TCU did that.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:33 am to
Yankee scum
Posted by stang14
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:27 am to
The point is Alabama came in fourth place in the SEC. So why do people think they are entitled. Georgia and Ohio State was the National championship game. That is the way it is.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:30 am to
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While I understand the reason the CFP committee made their choices, Alabama would have beaten TCU. They destroyed Kansas State who beat TCU. Georgia would not have hung 65 on them. Georgia lucked out.



UGA only needed to "hang" one more on anyone capable of stepping up to win their second natty in as many years....65 was merely 57 more than was needed to beat the only team in the nation capable of getting to the title game not named UGA....
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:31 am to
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Texas, A&M, & Ole Miss too.


How should they have lost? I get A&M at the two yard line but Alabama played that game with turnover machine Milroe at QB.
Ole Miss Alabama legit beat them. Not sure where you're coming up with that?
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 10:32 am
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:32 am to
Bama is like 2016 Ohio state

They had no business being in the playoffs and got exposed bigly 31-0 by Clemson

Georgia would’ve done the same to Bama in round 1 and the committee would’ve looked like fools
Posted by stang14
Member since Nov 2019
1218 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:32 am to
If tam had a coach they would have beat Bama also
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7472 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Tennessee, LSU, Tulane


Who would you take in a game played on a neutral field or at home like Georgia got all of their toughest games during the season?
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:36 am to
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Georgia would’ve done the same to Bama in round 1 and the committee would’ve looked like fools


Nope. With Bryce healthy would have looked a lot like Georgia's game with Ohio State except Bama has a better kicker.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5275 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:37 am to
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Start the 12 team playoff next year and this whole debate goes away and it gets settled on the field.


I could have swore that Bama "settled (it) on the field" twice this season...
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:25 am to
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Nope. With Bryce healthy would have looked a lot like Georgia's game with Ohio State except Bama has a better kicker.


So even when Bama has an average team, all they have to do is claim greatness at the end of the year? Sounds about right.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:34 am to
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The point is not whether Alabama deserved to be in the playoff or not. The point is TCU didn’t



deserve is very subjective and depends on how you apply the criteria. If the goal is just to put the 4 most talented teams in every year - then we don't even need to play the season - just put UGA, Bama and Ohio State in - let them all sit out the season and the other 130 teams can play for the last slot.

If TCU didn't "deserve it" who did? I can tell you 100% that Bama didn't deserve it. They lost twice, could have lost two more, couldn't even slow down Tennessee and were infested w/ dumb penalties all year. Bama is talented and Bryce Young is the best QB in the history of Bama football - but it wasn't good enough.

When we get the 12 team playoff, the 4 most talented teams will always get in. That's not what we have now - and Bama deservedly wasn't in - they EARNED the exclusion.
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:34 am to
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The point is not whether Alabama deserved to be in the playoff or not. The point is TCU didn’t

If Michigan had beaten TCU 65-7, I'd agree with you. Instead, TCU beat the #2 ranked team and earned their way to the finals.

So I'm not sure how TCU didn't deserve to be in the playoffs when they finished with a better playoff record than Michigan and Ohio State combined. They clearly deserved to be there.

Now what happened in the championship game - Clearly, Georgia was the better team, but we weren't 65-7 better. TCU sh*t themselves early and it got worse from there as Georgia took full advantage.

So TCU clearly wasn't mentally prepared for the National Championship game stage, but they earned their way to that game and belonged in the playoffs, imo.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:37 am to
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Georgia lucked out.



Bless your poor, retarded heart.
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
964 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:38 am to
Can't we just put this to bed?

1. There is a very good argument that Alabama was one of the four "best" teams, meaning that there weren't four other teams that you'd give at least a 50% chance of beating Alabama on a neutral field.

2. Alabama lost two games so their resume wasn't good enough to get into the CFP. Actually winning and losing on the field during the season has to have some meaning.

When deciding teams for the CFP most people give some weight to both being the "best" and resume, but different folks think they should be weighted differently.
Posted by Between TheHedges
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Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:48 am to
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With Bryce healthy


But he hasn’t been

Last time Georgia played Bama with a healthy Bryce they beat them by 15+ points

Bama has regressed since then and Georgia had improved

It would’ve been a 34-7 type beatdown for the gumps
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9857 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Start the 12 team playoff next year and this whole debate goes away and it gets settled on the field. Simple as that.


Alabama is going to frick shite up in a 12 team playoff and I am here for it. There will be no avoiding them in favor of Cinderellas that get beat down by 50 points like this year.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9083 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Frick it lets give Alabama their 19 championship.



We have a motion on the table... Seconded.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7472 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Last time Georgia played Bama with a healthy Bryce they beat them by 15+ points


Let's break that down a bit:

First of all, how do you get 15+ points?
So a month before, Bama with Jamison and Metchie scorched Georgia 41-24. No fluke, it was a beatdown.
NC game starts, Bama is back on track for the game to go at least 4 quarters probably Bama scorching them again because Georgia was struggling to stop Bama's passing game, in particular Bryce to Jamison.
Jamison goes down - now no Jamison and no Metchie and yet still it's a battle all the way to the 4th quarter. Georgia is aided by the awful play of Bama's backup receivers in which several big play passes were simply dropped.
And even still, Bama was one score from tying the game with just over a minute left in the game. That's when Bryce hit Jacorey Brooks, who had a step on the DB, inside the UGA 5..Brooks of course dropped it.
A couple of plays later, the pick 6 happened and that was it. That's hardly a beatdown at all. If Brooks catches the ball, we very well could have had an OT game.

This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Jamison goes down - now no Jamison and no Metchie and yet still it's a battle all the way to the 4th quarter. Georgia is aided by the awful play of Bama's backup receivers in which several big play passes were simply dropped



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